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Old 08-28-2022 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by ClutchCargo
I wish they would. 14 additional MD11s + staple…


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we can just buy UPS’s MD-11s and not deal with any of the maintenance issues or other baggage involved with acquiring WGA.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 02:34 AM
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Originally Posted by EMBFlyer
Yet every reserve day drop request I made last night was met with Max Open Time Violation, even though there were no open trips on those days.
That’s solely because they manipulate the required staffing numbers and our contract doesn’t have any sort of contractually guaranteed staffing clause.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 05:47 AM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
That’s solely because they manipulate the required staffing numbers and our contract doesn’t have any sort of contractually guaranteed staffing clause.
You may want to read the contract again and look for the MAX OPEN TIME LOA. It is a permanent LOA at the back of the contract.

Most of the confusion is due to our color coded staffing level chart. The chart only looks at reserves not how many OT trips are on those days. If it’s green many assume a drop would be approved. They don’t go and look at how many OT trips are on those days.

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Old 08-28-2022 | 09:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
You may want to read the contract again and look for the MAX OPEN TIME LOA. It is a permanent LOA at the back of the contract.

Most of the confusion is due to our color coded staffing level chart. The chart only looks at reserves not how many OT trips are on those days. If it’s green many assume a drop would be approved. They don’t go and look at how many OT trips are on those days.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
You may want to read the contract again and look for the MAX OPEN TIME LOA. It is a permanent LOA at the back of the contract.

Most of the confusion is due to our color coded staffing level chart. The chart only looks at reserves not how many OT trips are on those days. If it’s green many assume a drop would be approved. They don’t go and look at how many OT trips are on those days.
well aware of that LOA, and that’s my point exactly. We don’t have contractually guaranteed staffing.
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Old 08-28-2022 | 05:00 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
That’s solely because they manipulate the required staffing numbers and our contract doesn’t have any sort of contractually guaranteed staffing clause.
It’s sad how many of our guys don’t even understand this. Almost as sad as all the AVA hero’s out there right now.
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Old 08-29-2022 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
we can just buy UPS’s MD-11s and not deal with any of the maintenance issues or other baggage involved with acquiring WGA.

I don’t think they are for sale as they just bought several ex-Lufthansa birds…


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Old 08-29-2022 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by threeighteen
we can just buy UPS’s MD-11s and not deal with any of the maintenance issues or other baggage involved with acquiring WGA.
Too much risk in that. The MDs need to go. We don't need another hull loss with one. That could cripple us if the FAA or Boeing decide to ground them ... as has been rumored before if there was another accident with one.
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Old 08-30-2022 | 05:00 PM
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Too much risk in that. The MDs need to go. We don't need another hull loss with one. That could cripple us if the FAA or Boeing decide to ground them ... as has been rumored before if there was another accident with one.
Spoken like a true FedEx pilot who doesn't fly the MD. Meanwhile, we have the least amount of at risk landings because of our training. Check the numbers from the other fleets. Don't worry our training will be coming soon to a fleet near you.
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Old 08-31-2022 | 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by opt0712
Spoken like a true FedEx pilot who doesn't fly the MD. Meanwhile, we have the least amount of at risk landings because of our training. Check the numbers from the other fleets. Don't worry our training will be coming soon to a fleet near you.
You’re right. The MD program does have less at risk landings than the other fleets. The problem is at risk landings are much more dangerous in the MD than those fleets. Accident data doesn’t lie. Already had the “MD training”. Yawn.
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