Vaccine Stance
09-26-2021 | 05:00 PM
#411
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[QUOTE=Hedley Lamarr;3300578]Out of curiosity which God gave us the these rights?
The Mayan, Babylonian, Celtic, Roman, Hindu, Egyptian, Norse, Aztec or just the Christian God?
I’d love to have some god-given rights from Zeus.
It is obvious I am older than you since I was required to learn about the civics of this nation when I was in school. If you are an American citizen you probably ought to read the Preamble and Constitution of the United States of America. It's ok, it won't make you a MAGA man. Learning is healthy, and reading our founding documents should answer your juvenile question.
For whoever assumed I'm an old white man and had some unfair advantage in life, perhaps you might try to not assume things of which you know very little. I am positive I was hired because of my ethnic minority status because I truly don't know how I landed this job. Yes, my parents and grandparents overcame the prejudice and racial slurs they suffered when they legally came to this country. They preserved and raised successful children. The ones who are still with us will tell you when they came here last century, this was the best country in the world. The few that remain don't recognize it and feel it has changed for the worse.
The Mayan, Babylonian, Celtic, Roman, Hindu, Egyptian, Norse, Aztec or just the Christian God?
I’d love to have some god-given rights from Zeus.
It is obvious I am older than you since I was required to learn about the civics of this nation when I was in school. If you are an American citizen you probably ought to read the Preamble and Constitution of the United States of America. It's ok, it won't make you a MAGA man. Learning is healthy, and reading our founding documents should answer your juvenile question.
For whoever assumed I'm an old white man and had some unfair advantage in life, perhaps you might try to not assume things of which you know very little. I am positive I was hired because of my ethnic minority status because I truly don't know how I landed this job. Yes, my parents and grandparents overcame the prejudice and racial slurs they suffered when they legally came to this country. They preserved and raised successful children. The ones who are still with us will tell you when they came here last century, this was the best country in the world. The few that remain don't recognize it and feel it has changed for the worse.
09-26-2021 | 05:03 PM
#412
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I am blessed that I'm in the position to be able to retire if I want, although I have more years to go if I wanted. I will lose the bonus money since I didn't give my notice, but the date they set as the mandatory vaccinated by date will be the day after I retire. It's sad. I grew up in an America that offered freedoms unlike any other country in the world. Now, we are a third-world banana republic that forces the citizens to do things against their will. We block any form of dissent and ban people from speaking. We cancel all that don't agree with the state-sponsored idea of the day. I feel bad for those not in my position, who will have to choose between their own desire and the ability to feed their family, and the desire of a tyrannical state and people.
Once decades ago we forced people to take experimental vaccines and medication against their will, who were purposely infected, and when it was exposed to the light it was condemned. Now we have citizens volunteering for experimental vaccination and demanding others be forced to receive it against their will. What will be the next thing you are willing to force on others? What were the long-term side effects of mRNA vaccination trials in the past? 3-5 year ramifications? What are they for these new ones, that have litigation immunity? The doctors and scientists that have done the research have spoken, but the state and media giants have banned their speech. Here in America, people are forbidden to speak.
To all, whether vaccinated or not, God bless and keep you. As for me, again, I'm blessed that I can leave before they force me to do something against my will.
Good luck friends
Once decades ago we forced people to take experimental vaccines and medication against their will, who were purposely infected, and when it was exposed to the light it was condemned. Now we have citizens volunteering for experimental vaccination and demanding others be forced to receive it against their will. What will be the next thing you are willing to force on others? What were the long-term side effects of mRNA vaccination trials in the past? 3-5 year ramifications? What are they for these new ones, that have litigation immunity? The doctors and scientists that have done the research have spoken, but the state and media giants have banned their speech. Here in America, people are forbidden to speak.
To all, whether vaccinated or not, God bless and keep you. As for me, again, I'm blessed that I can leave before they force me to do something against my will.
Good luck friends
I genuinely do hope you enjoy your retirement.
09-26-2021 | 05:56 PM
#413
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Actually, I did want my questions answered. It's just like when a F/O walks up to the briefing with a new Capt. The Capt tries to assess who he is flying with, that person's relative experience, and get a feel for their competency. I am not stuck on any particular agenda, I wanted to see the level of actual knowledge for some of you keyboard commandos. And, the bonus would be, maybe I would get a new nugget of info that I could cross reference for it's validity and learn some more. As one who has read journals put out by the American Physical Society, the American Academy of Science, and various non technical science publications for decades, and one who has had graduate courses in statistics, I find these discussions quite amusing. They surely reinforce the idea that the less I know the more sure I am.
09-26-2021 | 06:00 PM
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You must not be able to read the contract because it clearly spells out that it’s legal and creates a penalty payment. That’s exactly what the communication sent by ALPA clearly stated two days ago.
The whole point is to monetarily make it painful on the company and de-incentivize them from doing it unless they absolutely have to.
Our scope language is the same as it’s been for 25 years and has a track record of working pretty darn well.
Much bigger fish to fry and things to look after than these measly 2 wet leases that are much smaller numbers then we’ve had in years past.
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09-26-2021 | 07:41 PM
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The argument in regards to vaccination started with “it would be illegal to require one to be vaccinated”. Then when that myth was debunked with numerous case law examples dating back to the early 1900s they then moved on to “it’s my God-given right to make my choice”. Then you ask him/her if it’s their kids God-given right to not be vaccinated and go to school where vaccinations are required? You bet your kid cannot get vaccinated but they then also cannot go to that school. Sounds similar to this and going to work at a place that would require vaccination. If you don’t want to get it that’s fine don’t get it but if your employer requires it then you no longer have a job. Have fun finding a new job. See ya!!!! Then have fun wasting thousands of dollars on an attorney more than happy to take your money to have the case thrown out like numerous cases are currently throughout the country.
09-26-2021 | 09:28 PM
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09-27-2021 | 08:33 AM
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My body my choice?!!! So when you go get your class 1 medical and doc says “hey those eyes are a bit shaky. Your going to need glasses to fly”. You can tell him nope but he wont authorize your medical. Same goes for taking the EKG after 50. Or any other corrective medical procedures. Get them done or don't fly. Simple
Show me in the contract my union signed where it says I need to get vaccinated in order to fly?
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