So everyone should just have a smallpox party and hope they're one of the lucky ones who don't react badly?

 

I agree with you. I don’t think we need herd immunity. More importantly, I don’t think (and most experts now agree) that herd immunity is even achievable with COVID. So why were people like Fauci pushing it as a goal before the vaccine came out? I’ll attach a video of him projecting that we could have herd immunity in the US by July or August if enough people got vaccinated. The most frequently quoted number was 70%. Israel achieved that goal a while ago. They are currently at 78% fully vaccinated. They also currently have one of the highest rates of COVID spread in the world. The vaccines simply aren’t performing like the experts hoped they would. The virus is doing what coronaviruses have always done. It mutates faster than we can keep up with. How is it possible that the greatest minds in medical science could have gotten this so wrong? It’s not like coronaviruses are new.
I think your comment about influenza is right on point. It is a simple fact that a vast majority of people who get COVID do not die or need hospitalization for it either. And yet…on the 12 day trip I am on, there is exactly one day I can leave my hotel on a layover. (Which explains why I have too much time on my hands and have stupidly decided to participate in this thread)
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/video...irms-ifo-video

 

If you’re an absolute idiot, yes. Please do. For the rest of the world, take the vaccine if you’re worried about being one of the unlucky few who require hospitalization. We know who is most at risk now. If you fall into a higher risk category, you’d be stupid not to get the vaccine. This isn’t a new concept. It’s how the flu vaccine has been handled for decades.

 

Got it. I guess we'll just act like we don't see all of the people who have no apparent risk factors and end up dead.

I still don't see any solid logic not to vaccinate in your argument.

1.3% of covid deaths are in vaccinated individuals.

 

My argument has been that people who have recovered from COVID should not be required to be vaccinated. That’s it. The number of COVID deaths in COVID recovered people in that very recent and very comprehensive Israeli study is 0%. As in no one who had COVID once died from it after getting reinfected. I like my odds with that one.

 

I’ll buy that. What’s the timeframe that should be good for?

 

Until I decide I am in a high risk category for severe COVID. I just had it in April. I had my T Cell immunity checked and it is in fine shape. The latest data shows COVID T Cell immunity doesn’t really dissipate over time. Israel has extended their window for COVID recovered all the way to 31 Dec 2021. And they’ll probably extend it again as their database grows. Meanwhile, they’ve shortened their vaccine window to 6 months from your last shot. Get a booster or lose your Green Pass.
I will probably get the shingles vaccine this year if that makes vaccine people happy.

 

Get ready for all the super neato internet scientist "Research" articles... The bottom line is that that consequences for the "Personal Decisions" are coming. Your body. Your choice. Your consequences.

 

Wow, so 100% of those that recovered from Covid, didn’t die of Covid? That’s some high-level stuff right there.

 

If that were true, it would be wonderful. Hopefully we will all continue to enjoy that freedom. I fully support anyone who wants to get vaccinated getting vaccinated. And I fully support anyone who doesn’t want to get vaccinated not getting vaccinated.