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Old 12-06-2022 | 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by BrianH;[url=tel:3545275
3545275[/url]]Been to both rallies, two of the three picketing events. I have attended several local council meetings and asked tough questions.


"Trust the Process" was the answer.


But I do know I am not the only one with these issues with our elected reps.
BrianH, you are a cancer to this crew force and to Block 22. I’ve heard your toxic questions. I’ve heard your ridiculous motions to recall members for allegations and no proof of wrong doing.

I don’t know your background but you are the epitome of a blue falcon.
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Old 12-06-2022 | 09:37 PM
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OK, the bold items are MUST HAVES for us, and FIX the retirement.

The question is, will the NC listen? Will the company listen?

Don't send me a crap TA and try to tell me it was the "best you could do". I don't want to hear it. Raise the bar or keep negotiating.

The per diem alone is worth $15,000 of TAX FREE money to the international guys, maybe $10,000 to the domestic flyers.

I’m not necessarily saying I need to see all those things in a TA. We aren’t even asking for most of those things (they had different priorities). I’m just saying to no work that these items are not insignificant. Their AIP isn’t just pay rates when pilots look at them as an outsider.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
I’m not necessarily saying I need to see all those things in a TA. We aren’t even asking for most of those things (they had different priorities). I’m just saying to no work that these items are not insignificant. Their AIP isn’t just pay rates when pilots look at them as an outsider.
I've been telling the NC committee we need full government rate per diem for over a decade. They won't listen, because "per diem is not pensionable". BS, full per diem is a lot of extra cash money in my pocket, tax free, and that affects how much I am able to save. Per diem does not bring in any dues, which is really why they are not interested. We should NOT have to subsidize our meals when at work, because the company won't pay adequate per diem, and the union won't demand it.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
BrianH, you are a cancer to this crew force and to Block 22. I’ve heard your toxic questions. I’ve heard your ridiculous motions to recall members for allegations and no proof of wrong doing.

I don’t know your background but you are the epitome of a blue falcon.
you would rather a union of yes-men? yes-men get you contract 2015. our union leaders are weak. most shouldn’t be there, cozy as they are with the opposition. in my opinion.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 03:43 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
Per diem tied to government rate
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
The per diem alone is worth $15,000 of TAX FREE money to the international guys, maybe $10,000 to the domestic flyers.
Originally Posted by Nightflyer
I've been telling the NC committee we need full government rate per diem for over a decade.
The devil will be in the details, but this doesn't say that Delta's per diem will be the government rate, it says it will be "tied" to the government rate. I read this as they will negotiate a per diem rate like every other airline has (i.e. $3.25 per hour TAFB) but then will index to the government per diem rate. Government per diem rate goes up 5%, their negotiated per diem will go up 5%. Maybe I'm wrong, and you're reading it correctly. I guess we'll know when the actual language appears.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 04:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Sluggo_63
The devil will be in the details, but this doesn't say that Delta's per diem will be the government rate, it says it will be "tied" to the government rate. I read this as they will negotiate a per diem rate like every other airline has (i.e. $3.25 per hour TAFB) but then will index to the government per diem rate. Government per diem rate goes up 5%, their negotiated per diem will go up 5%. Maybe I'm wrong, and you're reading it correctly. I guess we'll know when the actual language appears.
That is exactly what it will say - no way it will be full government rate. Doesn't UPS already have an adjustable rate?
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Old 12-07-2022 | 05:12 AM
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Why can’t we have the full government rate? It’s not much to ask for.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Why can’t we have the full government rate? It’s not much to ask for.
Because then company provided meals have to be accounted for.

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Old 12-07-2022 | 05:56 AM
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Because then company provided meals have to be accounted for.

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The company only provide meals during flight where we have no options. They sure don’t provide meal on layer overs.
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Old 12-07-2022 | 06:08 AM
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Originally Posted by StarClipper
Why can’t we have the full government rate? It’s not much to ask for.
because we are peasants and not respected by our overlords
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