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01-22-2023, 03:49 PM
#122
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Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
GlobeMaster has a valid point. The constant this airline or that airline has this or that is nonsense. You have to look at a contract as a whole. Why don’t you and all the other constant whiners post all the things we have that they don’t? I am all for making improvements, but acting as if or saying we are industry bottom (like posters have said) is ridiculous and untruthful. Like he said, if it is so bad then see you later. Many airlines are hiring.
As for the contract, for what we do, I do believe we should be industry leading in every section of the contract. Do you not believe that?
Lastly, you guys with this, if you complain then leave, mentality, need to get that out of your head. It’s the people who point out the weaknesses in the contract that get improvements. Just imagine that the survey results had no replies from those who complain about certain sections of the contract. The mec would take that as nothing needs changing. So please get rid of that mentality and thank us instead.
01-23-2023, 02:23 AM
#123
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Posts: 1,219
Originally Posted by Noworkallplay
GlobeMaster has a valid point. The constant this airline or that airline has this or that is nonsense. You have to look at a contract as a whole. Why don’t you and all the other constant whiners post all the things we have that they don’t? I am all for making improvements, but acting as if or saying we are industry bottom (like posters have said) is ridiculous and untruthful. Like he said, if it is so bad then see you later. Many airlines are hiring.
01-23-2023, 04:08 AM
#124
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Joined APC: Jan 2008
Position: MD11 FO
Posts: 142
Originally Posted by ClncClarence
How do you expect anything to get fixed if every time someone brings up a legitimate gripe about the company or our contract you tell them ‘If you don’t like it, leave!’?
01-23-2023, 04:53 PM
#126
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Joined APC: Apr 2013
Posts: 1,622
Originally Posted by MoarAlpha
When are the next meeting dates? I didn't see anything about another meeting on the calendar in the last NC Update email.
01-23-2023, 06:40 PM
#127
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Posts: 2,099
Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
There aren't any. We are awaiting words from the mediator to determine if we're going to have more dates to negotiate or have an impasse declared to a 60-day cooling off period.
01-23-2023, 11:39 PM
#129
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Joined APC: Dec 2010
Posts: 3,099
The worst part is, when some passable rates are finally TAed, everyone will vote yeah and slap each other on the back, grinning and thinking “we got em” when really the company locked in concessions that we didn’t need actually need to give in order to get a new contract. We got played.
01-24-2023, 12:41 AM
#130
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Joined APC: Mar 2006
Position: Crewmember
Posts: 1,381
We have been giving away concessions for pay rates for the last several contracts.
It is time we stopped doing that.
It is not our job to give the company a cost neutral contract.
No concessions!
If there are concessions, vote NO!
It is time we stopped doing that.
It is not our job to give the company a cost neutral contract.
No concessions!
If there are concessions, vote NO!
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