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Old 01-24-2023 | 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX;[url=tel:3577943
3577943[/url]]You are skipping a few steps. If the mediator feels there is an impasse, he will proffer binding arbitration. If either side refuses then you go to a 30 day cooling off period. After 30 days the parties can exercise self help. Or the president can create a PEB, which has 30 days to issue its recommendation, and at 30 days of the recommendation being issued, the parties can exercise self help. Lastly, congress can intervene.
I was assuming that we would never accept binding arbitration. I also believe cooling off period was changed from 30 to 60 days.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 07:53 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I was assuming that we would never accept binding arbitration. I also believe cooling off period was changed from 30 to 60 days.
wouldn’t it be nice if the union created a diagram as to what to expect going forward, like the diagram we use for PDM? what the f are we paying these guys for? hey. leaders. start educating the crew force!

now, dorks like NoBrains and Tuck and the other one who talks about grass will say that it’s all on the union website, go hunt for it! No! get ur shat together, dear leaders, and disseminate the structural procedures as they pertain to the RLA.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthrax
wouldn’t it be nice if the union created a diagram as to what to expect going forward, like the diagram we use for PDM? what the f are we paying these guys for? hey. leaders. start educating the crew force!

now, dorks like NoBrains and Tuck and the other one who talks about grass will say that it’s all on the union website, go hunt for it! No! get ur shat together, dear leaders, and disseminate the structural procedures as they pertain to the RLA.
You're kidding right? This has been disseminated numerous times.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by PurpleToolBox
I was assuming that we would never accept binding arbitration. I also believe cooling off period was changed from 30 to 60 days.
I didn’t make that assumption either. The timeline I gave is one which we don’t accept arbitration. Nothing has changed in cooling off periods.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by Anthrax
wouldn’t it be nice if the union created a diagram as to what to expect going forward, like the diagram we use for PDM? what the f are we paying these guys for? hey. leaders. start educating the crew force!

now, dorks like NoBrains and Tuck and the other one who talks about grass will say that it’s all on the union website, go hunt for it! No! get ur shat together, dear leaders, and disseminate the structural procedures as they pertain to the RLA.
You have got to be the biggest idiot on APC (at least the FDX board)! You sit back eating Doritos in your barca lounger smudging orange on your wife beater shirt and criticizing the very group working to put a bigger TV in your double wide. Do you actually read anything official, or is your total source of information on APC/Jetflyer?

Do you have any idea how many times the Union has published a flow chart of the RLA process? You don't even understand the essential truth of one team vs the opponent and espouse the so-called greatness of the opponent continuously. Do you even consider how backwards your logic is bashing the team working for you while publicly praising the other team who is trying to limit your contractual improvements? You defy any common sense or fundamental logic.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
You are skipping a few steps. If the mediator feels there is an impasse, he will proffer binding arbitration. If either side refuses then you go to a 30 day cooling off period. After 30 days the parties can exercise self help. Or the president can create a PEB, which has 30 days to issue its recommendation, and at 30 days of the recommendation being issued, the parties can exercise self help. Lastly, congress can intervene.
Hmmm. I think you may be surprised on whether this is the process that will play out.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 09:27 AM
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I guess we’ll see
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Old 01-24-2023 | 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by seefive
Hmmm. I think you may be surprised on whether this is the process that will play out.

My guess is you don't think we will ever be released. It is a common myth that floats around. You do realize that the RLA isn't there to keep labor from exercising their right to self help in order to obtain a contract. There have been rulings addressing just that. We are down to pay rates and longevity. The company doesn't want to pay us industry standard or even rates that keep up with inflation. My guess is they also want a long contract. TWO ITEMS. How long do the two sides need to meet for an impasse to be declared? If we aren't released soon, then we need to ask a court to force the NMB to release us. It has been done before.

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Old 01-24-2023 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by seefive
Hmmm. I think you may be surprised on whether this is the process that will play out.
Im just explaining the flow chart. I’m not predicting at what point on that flow chart we will have a TA.
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Old 01-24-2023 | 09:50 AM
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
Im just explaining the flow chart. I’m not predicting at what point on that flow chart we will have a TA.
I’m not convinced an impasse in expedited mediation means regular mediation can’t be entered.
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