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02-02-2023, 09:14 AM
#211
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Can anyone here provide a sourced answer for this? I’ve always been under the impression that the TA’d sections were under NDA until everything was agreed to and approved by the NC/MEC. I haven’t ever heard of this info being released during other companies’ negotiations so I’m curious to hear from all those here demanding transparency if it’s even allowed.
02-02-2023, 09:16 AM
#212
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Originally Posted by Pilotguy21
They should let us vote on the next offer the company gives. Then we get to read it and send it back with a very high no vote percentage. Maybe that would send the message needed
02-02-2023, 12:40 PM
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I’m kinda disappointed with the mediator, I mean, I hope the NC would have gone in and showed Deltas pay rates, the fact that we had buybacks, and our high profit margin…then look across the table to the mediator and say, “Well? You gonna mediate?” Can’t he go, “Hey FDX, given all this stuff in front of me, your proposed rate is waaaaaay too low, come back with another offer”?
02-02-2023, 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by magic rat
I’m kinda disappointed with the mediator, I mean, I hope the NC would have gone in and showed Deltas pay rates, the fact that we had buybacks, and our high profit margin…then look across the table to the mediator and say, “Well? You gonna mediate?” Can’t he go, “Hey FDX, given all this stuff in front of me, your proposed rate is waaaaaay too low, come back with another offer”?
Arbitration on the other had would be a different story. In that case, they take all the info presented and use their judgement to settle the issue.
02-02-2023, 08:22 PM
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Originally Posted by ClncClarence
Well that’s really not the way mediation works. It’s not the mediator’s job to make specific suggestions to either party or to push things in a certain direction, he’s there to get them to come to an agreement between themselves.
Arbitration on the other had would be a different story. In that case, they take all the info presented and use their judgement to settle the issue.
Arbitration on the other had would be a different story. In that case, they take all the info presented and use their judgement to settle the issue.
02-03-2023, 03:38 PM
#218
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Originally Posted by HvypurplePylot
Does any other pilot group get the details of TA'd sections? Some just want to punch holes in everything, how can you expect the NC to negotiate under those conditions.
I love the unity. I wonder which one of you is the clown on JF wanting to get rid of ALPA because their email wasn't answered. Same person that has admitted they are too lazy to look something up in the contract.
I love the unity. I wonder which one of you is the clown on JF wanting to get rid of ALPA because their email wasn't answered. Same person that has admitted they are too lazy to look something up in the contract.
I think in general, we as pilots, want to know all available information as soon as possible. We’ve been trained and conditioned that way from the beginning of flight training. I certainly would prefer that I could look at the TAd sections. Bit I’m not sure it would be the best idea right now.
02-04-2023, 06:35 AM
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Originally Posted by opt0712
Check your emails for a video update from the MEC. They directly address the false rumors and more from all you "insider knowledge" guys.
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