Well, let's look at your history.

Then you decided to gloat.

Then you compared our career to other airlines.

And then at the end of 2022 you posted this.

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So, based on your past track record, why should we listen to you?

 

We aren't, we watched the video. Tough to get past PM describing it as unconscionable that folks would retire without a pension increase because the new guys are worried about job security.

 

Your question was answered, twice actually by PM.

Despite some of y'alls wishes, I'm not even close to retirement. Yeah us "old" guys are a little miffed that pilots with maybe 3 years here, who can go to any airline they want to right now, would want to derail our negotiations so that they can get their need addressed. We vowed as a crew force to not let a concessionary TA be passed like we had shoved down our throats in 2015.

I agree, very much so, that our fifth freedom scope language is shockingly problematic. I am very happy to see the junior pilots fired up. The timing couldn't be more wrong though to take this issue to the table at the NMB.

The Union has said we've not lost any flying, yet. The increased ASL flying that those in the FDA have witnessed is because of the operations being merged into CDG from LGG. That flying was, according to the union, was protected by ASL during the TNT buyout. The sky isn't falling. Our freight volumes are and our company is struggling to restructure to become as profitable as our competitors.

If anyone has any credible factual evidence to the contrary, I'd love to see it. I don't want anecdotal evidence. I am more than willing to call out my union reps. And I have. Numerous times. I attend nearly every event and meeting I possibly can.

Should our future TA fail to ratify on its own merit, then we'll have to start all over again. Hopefully we can poll, formulate openers and restart negotiations with the company in record time. The Delta pilots took 1.5 years after their no vote in 2015 to get to another TA, and that was with a management group who originally opened negotiations early and wanted a deal done fast. That's not so with FedEx.

Because of the abysmal 2015 deal and length of contract, FedEx pilot "industry leading" pay rates were leapfrogged by UA, AA, DAL and UPS. And we've trailed them since. Had it not been for COVID we would be two contracts behind. If we have to start over, we'll be begging for a 41.5% pay increase just to match Delta (assuming nobody goes higher than them) while Delta will be building openers on their next contract! Are you really so sure we'll get a better deal the second time around? Industry leading deal???

I am not selling the next TA. I am not friends with anyone in our union and I'm not on the union roles. But I can not stress this enough, the quickest way to getting scope addressed by the company would be to let this TA play out and to attack it afterwards. Thinking the company will give us the scope we want as well as a better deal the second time around, is asking for a very big ask.

We are currently voting to authorize our union to use the last big tool we have in the RLA shed to get to a ratified TA. Please vote, it's very important. Understand that your union isn't ignoring you. PM spent 20 minutes addressing the scope issue and the steps they've already taken with the company.

 

If I were new, I'd be more worried about current job security than future job security. Foot stomp. Read the tea leaves. Listen to what PM and what they addressed with the company as solutions for new hire job security.

 

Wtf are you saying? Foot stomp? What is this, an oral check ride? Just say it out loud.

 

Seems like your track record of predicting the future is 0%. I personally will support our NC, wait and read the TA, and vote accordingly based on its merits.

 

For those who may have missed it; PM summarily said: I can’t believe you unconscionable pilots hired after 2015 only care about protecting your jobs when we have guys who are more than ready to retire with a new and improved retirement plan. Sure, they’re going to retire in the next 3 years anyway but isn’t it more important that they retire NOW much richer than they are today than it is to worry about scope? Besides, the company needs to be able to compete. If that means they contract out more flying to undercut UPS and DHL then isn’t that for everyone’s benefit? Stop being so selfish.

 

You just quoted a bunch of my posts on different topics and none of them are particularly relevant to the topic at hand, except for the one about survey questions, which were pretty good, but I honestly had no idea scope was so much of an issue until I landed in Paris and saw a bunch of purple tail 737s flying routes our 757s used to fly. I am no longer content with that survey. They haven't posted the feedback yet and I honestly don't even remember scope being an option on there, maybe it was? I don't know.

 

You do know pension improvements benefit everyone? The pension hasn't been fixed since inception. Now if the pension is improved, the precedent is set to continually raise it for every pilot on the property. If you are so unhappy here, get the app out. You are missing on hundreds of seniority numbers at the majors.

 

Yeah, that’s what he does. Takes past quotes without any context to try and make you look contradictory.

Congratulations PS, you can look up past comments. But he’s also the one that needs comments spelled out precisely or he’s lost. I quit trying a while ago. You might consider disengaging as well. It’s like arguing with that nowork clown.