Any information from PD was run through the lawyers and senior management. Company texting the water for negotiations. If they didn't want it leaked he wouldn't have talked about.

 

Could you give some specifics on why you think the last part? Some data points?

 

Thanks for the summary. The link is dead.

 

Same. Not saying I don't like them, but I could also live without them.

 

You obviously don't fly the 777 or 11. Senior FO would take a big hit as RFO flying has the highest percentage of BO. Senior guys average almost 9 hours pay per day.

 

Not true. I'm on the 777. Senior FO. I'd have to see the math, but shifting money from BKO to pay rates in general might be a net gain for me. On a 60 or 70 hour trip, how much of a pay rate increase would be required to be worth more than BKO.

 

Agree. We should also just eliminate international per diem to increase the per diem for everyone by whatever amount that saves the company. We can use some of that to give per diem to folks doing out-and-backs since we're probably the only airline that doesn't have per diem for that. Let us also eliminate ULR and international overrides. Just move money around from one group of pilots to another so the company can keep sending truckload after truckload of cash to activist shareholders for the sacrifices that they made during COVID instead of actually paying increased labor costs. Why oh why didn't we think of doing this with the rest of the contract?

That recorded meeting was likely just another psyop by management. They probably wanted it leaked. They are going to fight with everything they've got to make sure they aren't the ones paying for our pay increases. The question is, are we going to let them get away with it again?

 

Not surprising... someone reached out looking for the identity of the pilot who gave me the recording. They were surprised when they found out it came from a FedEx stock holder who isn't employed in the aviation industry. That person seemed to be under the impression it was part of an earnings call Q&A relating to the Purple Orange White initiative... can't really control who management gives copies of their meeting minutes to.

 

Wait, so now you want to give away things to get things????

 

There are probably some smart people out there that can take some samples from the bidpacks and come up with a reasonable comparison of pay with BKO and pay without BKO but +$30-35/hr. I'm withholding judgment on the idea until I can see how that math shakes out. I'm certainly curious to know.