legitimate question if you raise the international override to break even with BKO why would that be a bad thing?

 

Sure that would be fine. Just going to ask for it and it will happen? How about $600 hr across the board no overrides. Just a dream.

 

Because the negotiating capital that would be spent disproportionately rewarding the people that aren’t doing real international flying would have to come at the expense of something that could benefit all the crews. If you want to get paid like a pilot flying long haul, just bid it instead of asking everyone else for a handout.

 

Keep back peddling, because that is not what you suggested at first. You said that we should get rid of BKO and use that money to increase international override to spread the wealth to the Airbus and 767.

If you want the BKO money, then bid the fleets and trips that get it.

 

Pilot wants to do less work and make the same as the on s working harder. Same guy was flying AA/ddrfr last year saying he was working smarter than all of us? Meanwhile complaining about our crappy contract.

 

Hub turning 757 crews work harder than “real” international flyer do by ever conceivable metric. They deserve extra pay as much as anyone else on property

 

It does take a little extra work to look up transition levels and altitudes. Lazy domestic pilots only have to remember 18k/FL180 😁

 

Welcome to aviation, it get's easier the more senior you get and the more money you make. If the pay was based on the work, feeder/regional pilots would make the most.

 

I can only assume you mean "by every conceivable metric", vs. "ever conceivable metric". Getting that discaimer out of the way in case I misunderstood you. With that said there is an easily conceivable metric (which is very highly correlated with BKO 8/10) by which international crews "work harder". That is of course block hours. A cursory glance at the May 757 CA bidpack vs. May 777 CA bidpack shows that most of the 777 lines have more block time than the highest block 757 line (Line 1021: 48:33).

In general its very difficult to specify who "works harder"...much depends on your definitions. In economic terms its often not relevent. The physical definition of work is force x distance. But even if you wanted to go with this physically pure definition, the 777 crews are still going to win, as they're moving a larger weight of freight (hence larger force applied) over a longer distance...therefore work done is going to be far larger.

 

Sitting in a tube for a long time eating cake then one landing to a 96 hour layover in a 5 star resort isn’t even in the same universe as a two leg into MEM with a 1.5hr turn to a two leg out to a sht Hilton Garden Inn (repeated 3 days in a row) is hardly comparable. Amount of cargo flown isn’t worth discussing. It’s a meaningless metric to the crews up front.