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Old 10-16-2015 | 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
That's a load of Horse Hockey RE. We have seen this act before and would be foolish to repeat. There were reasons the Membership felt compelled to do the recalls when they did. Those reasons have not changed. As I mention on another thread.......none of this faldera is about the TA, it's all about control of the MEC. To all members out there, here is another question.........if the TA is voted down how will we pay for more negotiations? The way I read our finances we are low,low,low on funds. So what......assessments??? How big ? How long? Whose hand do I feel creeping into my pocket?
My response was to another Poster who said we have never had recalls before. I simply offered that we had. ALPA 1, FPA and ALPA 2 under both DW and SS and now another failed attempt as of today.

If TC wants to run again, who are you to say he can't? The Membership, Specifically Council 7, will decide if they want him or not.

As to ALPA's finances. I have no idea what the finances are. I don't have inside information, however, I submit that if this TA does not pass, we have multiple options.

1. Membership Assessment
2. ALPA National MCF which we haven't yet touched.
3. We haven't yet explored a Strike Vote

Yes, the MEC can vote to assessment and we would have to approve it. If this doesn't pass, I will be willing to pay. We did it under FPA and everyone voted for an assessment as well as a Temporary increase in Dues

BTW, this has nothing to do with TC running as he won't take office until after the TA vote is counted. BTW I do not know TC and wouldn't recognize him if he shook my hand.

Why don't we all take a breath and wait for the TA ratification results. If it passes we will have 6 plus years to think about it.

If it Fails, we will need to get our Ducks in a Row and Fast.

Carry on.
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Old 10-16-2015 | 02:27 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
That's a load of Horse Hockey RE. We have seen this act before and would be foolish to repeat. There were reasons the Membership felt compelled to do the recalls when they did. Those reasons have not changed. As I mention on another thread.......none of this faldera is about the TA, it's all about control of the MEC. To all members out there, here is another question.........if the TA is voted down how will we pay for more negotiations? The way I read our finances we are low,low,low on funds. So what......assessments??? How big ? How long? Whose hand do I feel creeping into my pocket?
No assessments needed. You are correct in the fact that we have about 800K left out of about 8M. The way I figure, we pay about 16.3M, (assuming an average salary of 200K), per year to National for dues. We're a cash cow for ALPA! We simply tell them we want some cash out of the MCF to finish this deal. If this is one's deciding factor on voting "yes", please don't do so. Keeping the faith!
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Old 10-16-2015 | 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
... To all members out there, here is another question.........if the TA is voted down how will we pay for more negotiations...
Talk about fear mongering on weakness.

MEC Chair has addressed this. ALPA Natl has funds for us to negotiate TA2. Now, TA3 would be a different matter.

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Old 10-16-2015 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Talk about feat mongering on weakness.



MEC Chair has addressed this. ALPA Natl has funds for us to negotiate TA2. Now, TA3 would be a different matter.

Feat mongering? Vote with my feet? Feats of strength?

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Old 10-16-2015 | 03:10 PM
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Originally Posted by CloudSailor
Talk about feat mongering on weakness.

MEC Chair has addressed this. ALPA Natl has funds for us to negotiate TA2. Now, TA3 would be a different matter.
Alert....Alert......Party lockstep response......yes those funds from ALPA national ARE available on a REPAYABLE BASIS so the question remains ......how do we pay for this? .......feeling that hand in my pocket......
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Old 10-16-2015 | 03:16 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackKnight
Feat mongering? Vote with my feet? Feats of strength?

Hehehe, you got me there.

Browsing from "smart" phone. Me being on here on a great weekend, not so "smart".
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Old 10-16-2015 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
Alert.......how do we pay for this?....
Great reason to vote yes. Extremely weak, but good reasoning nonetheless.
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Old 10-16-2015 | 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by BlackKnight
Feat mongering? Vote with my feet? Feats of strength?

Sounds like TA Festivus.
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Old 10-16-2015 | 09:49 PM
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Originally Posted by FLMD11CAPT
Alert....Alert......Party lockstep response......yes those funds from ALPA national ARE available on a REPAYABLE BASIS so the question remains ......how do we pay for this? .......feeling that hand in my pocket......
We pay 16.3 Mil+ in dues every year. No need to worry about hands in your pocket.
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Old 10-16-2015 | 10:27 PM
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Originally Posted by frozenboxhauler
We pay 16.3 Mil+ in dues every year. No need to worry about hands in your pocket.
and what exactly of that goes to negotiations funding?
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