Time to create a NAI blacklist?
12-24-2016, 06:59 AM
#131
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Originally Posted by Grumble
Wanna compare the career earnings of a LUAL pilot, including the pension grab, with the career earnings at Ryanair?
Completely wrong, along with most of what you post.
Completely wrong, along with most of what you post.
On another note, are you that naive to think that LH pilots, for example, would stand still for even a nanosecond if their retirement benefits were terminated?
By the way Grumble, how many years were you with FR?
12-24-2016, 07:03 AM
#132
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Originally Posted by SUX4U
Clearly you aren't going to change anyone's mind nor will anyone change your mind on these aspects/issues our industry faces. Now that it's turning into a Johnson measuring conversation, might it be time to focus on life outside the forums for a bit? Maybe family time might be a good suggestion? I don't know, maybe some sort of faded away hobby could be dusted off? Sooo much time and energy wasted here for nothing.
12-24-2016, 08:10 AM
#133
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Originally Posted by captjns
The pension grab, silently supported by the group of pilots wiped out a major portion of their retirement benefits. Those within a couple years of their reitrement had budgeted their lives based on the terminated pension plan. You're OK with that. Tell those who lost their retirement that you're OK with the pension grab. I'm sure they'd love to pat you on the back while you drink that special glass of Koolaide.
On another note, are you that naive to think that LH pilots, for example, would stand still for even a nanosecond if their retirement benefits were terminated?
By the way Grumble, how many years were you with FR?
On another note, are you that naive to think that LH pilots, for example, would stand still for even a nanosecond if their retirement benefits were terminated?
By the way Grumble, how many years were you with FR?
If you have time, check out this documentary on the UAL pension fiasco. It's a story that goes far beyond one company. You can judge for yourself where to point the finger at. We also spent several years under a court injunction for "misbehavior" in the wake of all this. Not sure how such a scenario would play out for LH. With that, I'll get off the thread. Merry Christmas.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/retirement/
12-24-2016, 08:50 AM
#134
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Originally Posted by CousinEddie
JNS:
If you have time, check out this documentary on the UAL pension fiasco. It's a story that goes far beyond one company. You can judge for yourself where to point the finger at. We also spent several years under a court injunction for "misbehavior" in the wake of all this. Not sure how such a scenario would play out for LH. With that, I'll get off the thread. Merry Christmas.
Can You Afford to Retire? | FRONTLINE | PBS
If you have time, check out this documentary on the UAL pension fiasco. It's a story that goes far beyond one company. You can judge for yourself where to point the finger at. We also spent several years under a court injunction for "misbehavior" in the wake of all this. Not sure how such a scenario would play out for LH. With that, I'll get off the thread. Merry Christmas.
Can You Afford to Retire? | FRONTLINE | PBS
02-12-2017, 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by 9easy
I think it's time for ALPA, IBT, SWAPA, APA, and whoever else to ban together and declare that working for Norwegian or any subsidiary is only a small step above crossing a picket line and will not be tolerated.
1. Lifetime Jumpseat ban and creation of a blackball list
2. To the extent possible, banned from being hired at any other US Airline for the rest of their careers
3. No zed agreements with any NAI subsidiary
Unlike most union efforts, most mainline airline management (except JetBlue) probably hate NAI as much as we do and could be quite agreeable to make this happen.
1. Lifetime Jumpseat ban and creation of a blackball list
2. To the extent possible, banned from being hired at any other US Airline for the rest of their careers
3. No zed agreements with any NAI subsidiary
Unlike most union efforts, most mainline airline management (except JetBlue) probably hate NAI as much as we do and could be quite agreeable to make this happen.
02-12-2017, 05:46 PM
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Originally Posted by 73driver
Why, I have no algience to airline management
02-13-2017, 09:28 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
Will there be a black list of pilots who work for regionals that constantly undercut each other?
What's happened at the regionals is a disgrace and I get an evil grin every time I hear about one of them having to cancel flights due to a shortage of pilots. It's self-induced. Hopefully NAI and their ilk will have to do the same.
02-13-2017, 09:29 AM
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Originally Posted by AboveMins
Will there be a black list of pilots who work for regionals that constantly undercut each other?
02-13-2017, 09:41 AM
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From another Braniff DC8 guy, if you look at ALPA's history you will find they have a pretty bad labor history. They always went after the money, which left smaller carriers out of luck in a competitive market. In that regard they were frequently no better than trump.
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