Time to create a NAI blacklist?
12-18-2016 | 10:30 AM
#101
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Because Allegiant didn't plan on going head to head out of the largest airports (top 5) in the country like SFO, LAX, and JFK. No one cares when you go from Punta Gordo, Florida to Youngstown, Ohio. As NEDude said, the DOT challenges were satisfied but the other airlines (and esp ALPA) were still against Virgin America.
Where I live, Allegiant's LAS flights go right over the top of DEN on the way. Think that doesn't matter at all?
12-18-2016 | 12:03 PM
#102
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From: Tom’s Whipping boy.
I think it's time for ALPA, IBT, SWAPA, APA, and whoever else to ban together and declare that working for Norwegian or any subsidiary is only a small step above crossing a picket line and will not be tolerated.
1. Lifetime Jumpseat ban and creation of a blackball list
2. To the extent possible, banned from being hired at any other US Airline for the rest of their careers
3. No zed agreements with any NAI subsidiary
Unlike most union efforts, most mainline airline management (except JetBlue) probably hate NAI as much as we do and could be quite agreeable to make this happen.
1. Lifetime Jumpseat ban and creation of a blackball list
2. To the extent possible, banned from being hired at any other US Airline for the rest of their careers
3. No zed agreements with any NAI subsidiary
Unlike most union efforts, most mainline airline management (except JetBlue) probably hate NAI as much as we do and could be quite agreeable to make this happen.
What a moron!
12-18-2016 | 10:37 PM
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Again, so what. If VA hadn't presented such a blurry ownership structure in the beginning, they wouldn't have attracted that kind of attention. The DOT required them to make changes prior to certification since they were found to not be in full compliance. Again, legitimate issues were raised that required changes. Ever wonder why Allegiant didn't have these issues?
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12-20-2016 | 10:43 AM
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Fewer pilots = higher pay. Same with every profession. We should be doing nothing to make it easier to be a pilot. There's a problem when a new entrant offers pay well below scale, and desperate pilots willing to skip a few rungs of the career ladder show up for work.
12-20-2016 | 01:17 PM
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From: Sitting SC at the Five Towns
12-20-2016 | 02:13 PM
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Allegiant started as a scheduled charter airline in the 1990s, flying Fresno to Las Vegas using an old SAS DC-9-21. As mentioned, it did not set out to establish hubs in major cities and develop a route structure to challenge the major airlines. It did not start with great fanfare, huge amounts of funding, and large orders for brand new airplanes like JetBlue or Virgin America. Allegiant was barely a blip at the corner of major airlines radar screens when it acquired its AOC. Completely different animal altogether.
12-21-2016 | 06:26 AM
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12-21-2016 | 06:55 AM
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From: B-737NG preferably in first class with a glass of champagne and caviar
There's never any job security as a contract pilot, be it in the U.S. or abroad. In the 25 years as an expat, I've been furloughed once for the poultry some of 2 weeks. The company gave us 3 months notice and full pay. The company gave us paid leave to interview with travel benefits too. How much notice do airlines in the U.S. give before they push the red button?
I don't care for the shiny jets, I research contracting companies that stand by the client. Not too many reputable agencies out there nowadays.
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