Search
Notices
Fractional NetJets, FlexJet, etc

Executive Airshare

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-12-2014, 07:53 AM
  #1211  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Jun 2008
Posts: 144
Default

Originally Posted by MiGBoy View Post
You understand my point, and I understand yours. You are most correct.

As for the book, It was ordered prior to breakfast this morning.
You'll enjoy it...well, you'll "uncomfortably" enjoy it! Incredible read. The movie was pretty accurate up to a point, but I won't give it away for you.
KingAirDriver is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 06:46 AM
  #1212  
Gets Weekends Off
 
runsky42's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Upright
Posts: 120
Default

I think the complaint on the 12-3 sched right now is that we cannot see more then 3 days into the future. So when your spouse asks when will you be home the honest answer is I don't know, within the next 12 days, I think. So planning your life becomes a little more challenging. Pack for 7 days plan on being on the road for 12. I heard that there is change coming to the program that will allow the pilots to see farther into the future. I really hope there is. There is an awesome group of pilots here, best I have been around in my 20 years of aviation, so I hope morale can make a change for the best.
runsky42 is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 10:15 AM
  #1213  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Airplanes
Posts: 1,378
Default

Originally Posted by AviatorBakeek View Post
I couldn't have upgraded to anything until a few months ago and I am upgrading in a month so its a mute point and so is the other guy.
It's a moot point. Not a mute point.
Macjet is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 10:19 AM
  #1214  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Airplanes
Posts: 1,378
Default

Originally Posted by runsky42 View Post
There is an awesome group of pilots here, best I have been around in my 20 years of aviation, so I hope morale can make a change for the best.
Is it really? A company with a horrible schedule and subpar pay is attracting the absolute best and brightest that aviation has to offer?

Or did you work at places that really were that bad and this group is outstanding by comparison?

FWIW, I do have friends there.
Macjet is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 10:30 AM
  #1215  
Gets Weekends Off
 
runsky42's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2013
Position: Upright
Posts: 120
Default

Originally Posted by Macjet View Post
Is it really? A company with a horrible schedule and subpar pay is attracting the absolute best and brightest that aviation has to offer?

Or did you work at places that really were that bad and this group is outstanding by comparison?

FWIW, I do have friends there.
Yes I came from a sub par company, so in comparison EAS is much better. Better then somewhere else can't say. Is the grass always greener on the otherside? Sometimes. The guys I fly with are great. Yes the 12-3 is not a fan favorite. Since the 1st of the year I have flown 4 days and the rest of the time been STBY at home.
runsky42 is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 11:05 AM
  #1216  
Gets Weekends Off
 
RI830's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: Left seat on a kite
Posts: 1,884
Default

Originally Posted by Macjet View Post
Is it really? A company with a horrible schedule and subpar pay is attracting the absolute best and brightest that aviation has to offer?

Or did you work at places that really were that bad and this group is outstanding by comparison?

FWIW, I do have friends there.
Who says its subpar? The pay rates are determined by the type of plane and operation. The 300 drivers are actually paid higher than what is industry avg for that airframe.
The pay rates are reviewed annually and changed as necessary.
The sked may not be a "fan favorite" but the pay is not subpar.
It took me 3-4 yrs to make 36K at the regionals and EAS pays that from day 1 for SIC's.

As for the pilot group, they are some of the best people I have ever worked with.
RI830 is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 11:33 AM
  #1217  
Gets Weekends Off
 
IlliniPilot99's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Jul 2007
Posts: 577
Default

Originally Posted by RI830 View Post
Who says its subpar? The pay rates are determined by the type of plane and operation. The 300 drivers are actually paid higher than what is industry avg for that airframe.
The pay rates are reviewed annually and changed as necessary.
The sked may not be a "fan favorite" but the pay is not subpar.
It took me 3-4 yrs to make 36K at the regionals and EAS pays that from day 1 for SIC's.

As for the pilot group, they are some of the best people I have ever worked with.
at RAH I made 31K my first year and 40K my second year, and I tried my hardest to not fly, I know a decent amount of pilots that flew all the time and made +50K their 2nd year...
IlliniPilot99 is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 05:32 PM
  #1218  
Line Holder
 
jeflies's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Apr 2010
Posts: 28
Default

Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99 View Post
at RAH I made 31K my first year and 40K my second year, and I tried my hardest to not fly, I know a decent amount of pilots that flew all the time and made +50K their 2nd year...
Was that including per diem? Or only salary?
jeflies is offline  
Old 01-13-2014, 06:50 PM
  #1219  
Gets Weekends Off
 
USMCFLYR's Avatar
 
Joined APC: Mar 2008
Position: FAA 'Flight Check'
Posts: 13,837
Default

Originally Posted by IlliniPilot99 View Post
at RAH I made 31K my first year and 40K my second year, and I tried my hardest to not fly, I know a decent amount of pilots that flew all the time and made +50K their 2nd year...
So the numerous reports I read on this forum of 2nd and 3rd year regional FOs only making in the mid $20ks are incorrect?
USMCFLYR is offline  
Old 01-14-2014, 05:38 AM
  #1220  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined APC: Feb 2007
Position: Airplanes
Posts: 1,378
Default

Originally Posted by RI830 View Post
Who says its subpar? The pay rates are determined by the type of plane and operation. The 300 drivers are actually paid higher than what is industry avg for that airframe.
The pay rates are reviewed annually and changed as necessary.
The sked may not be a "fan favorite" but the pay is not subpar.
It took me 3-4 yrs to make 36K at the regionals and EAS pays that from day 1 for SIC's.

As for the pilot group, they are some of the best people I have ever worked with.
I'm glad that it's working out for you and I also know you're a cheerleader for EAS. But comparing a 91k/135 operation to the regionals isn't apples v apples. You need to be comparing your pay/sched to Flex, NJA, etc. or other 135's.

I know several of your people but most are on the managed side. And they are good folks. But the previous poster who stated that they "were the best" I think is a bit presumptuous. I would imagine "the best" are currently doing carrier traps or interviewing at places where the aircraft types begin with B or A. I wouldn't be so bold to state that my outfit has "the best".

And your pay is subpar. I made $93k last year flying a King Air. I work 7 on and 7 off and know my schedule years out until the day I leave. Our benefits aren't the best but we are well compensated for the professionals that we are and that this career demands.

I'm glad it is working for you and the other guys/gals employed there. But for the sake of the industry please don't accept your pay and schedule as "on par".
Macjet is offline  
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
Bill Lumberg
Fractional
35
02-25-2013 09:30 AM
Pinchanickled
Regional
33
12-17-2010 06:58 PM
flight0813
Regional
36
04-01-2009 07:06 PM
Bill Lumberg
Fractional
2
07-02-2008 06:08 AM
stinsonjr
Fractional
2
09-25-2007 09:20 PM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices