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Old 10-07-2019, 02:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjocky76 View Post
Iv worked at Nicholas Air for 3.5 years. Great place to work with good pay and benefits. I usually do not do these forms because they are just places for people to talk negativiatly. A few of us pilots heard about these negative post from a friend that was interviewing here and so figured I would chime in to defend the great place I work. I came from a large 135 operator before here. The equipment here is amazing and you will not find a company that maintains newer/nicer planes. I’m not just a number here in some union pool and the management team all the way up to the CEO cares about us. The company has very high expectations and standards, much higher than anywhere I have worked before so its not for everyone. There is some turn over but it’s because they weed out the weak links quickly, probably which is mostly where the negatives you are hearing come from. If you want to be disrespectful and not follow the policy’s then its not a place for you. The customer pool we fly is super successful therefor demands the best. I don’t know how they got some of them but you get to meet people I never dreamed I would. Its a very tight network. I plan to retire here as its a great stable job that I love. If you have a family and looking for stability its a great place to be.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Are you management?

Pm for details if you are seriously considering working here.

All operators are hiring right now.
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Old 10-11-2019, 06:08 PM
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Kinda like the lab rat and the electrocuted corn, I too had heard the bad rumors, yet did some contact work for them...

Their reputation is intact.
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Originally Posted by Jetjocky76 View Post
Iv worked at Nicholas Air for 3.5 years. Great place to work with good pay and benefits. I usually do not do these forms because they are just places for people to talk negativiatly. A few of us pilots heard about these negative post from a friend that was interviewing here and so figured I would chime in to defend the great place I work. I came from a large 135 operator before here. The equipment here is amazing and you will not find a company that maintains newer/nicer planes. I’m not just a number here in some union pool and the management team all the way up to the CEO cares about us. The company has very high expectations and standards, much higher than anywhere I have worked before so its not for everyone. There is some turn over but it’s because they weed out the weak links quickly, probably which is mostly where the negatives you are hearing come from. If you want to be disrespectful and not follow the policy’s then its not a place for you. The customer pool we fly is super successful therefor demands the best. I don’t know how they got some of them but you get to meet people I never dreamed I would. Its a very tight network. I plan to retire here as its a great stable job that I love. If you have a family and looking for stability its a great place to be.
This guy is either a management shill or JN. All anyone needs to do is ask why so many pilots leave this place so quickly after getting there. Some are even willing to pay off the training contract to leave. Yeah, it's that bad!
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Old 11-26-2019, 03:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jetjocky76 View Post
Iv worked at Nicholas Air for 3.5 years. Great place to work with good pay and benefits. I usually do not do these forms because they are just places for people to talk negativiatly. A few of us pilots heard about these negative post from a friend that was interviewing here and so figured I would chime in to defend the great place I work. I came from a large 135 operator before here. The equipment here is amazing and you will not find a company that maintains newer/nicer planes. I’m not just a number here in some union pool and the management team all the way up to the CEO cares about us. The company has very high expectations and standards, much higher than anywhere I have worked before so its not for everyone. There is some turn over but it’s because they weed out the weak links quickly, probably which is mostly where the negatives you are hearing come from. If you want to be disrespectful and not follow the policy’s then its not a place for you. The customer pool we fly is super successful therefor demands the best. I don’t know how they got some of them but you get to meet people I never dreamed I would. Its a very tight network. I plan to retire here as its a great stable job that I love. If you have a family and looking for stability its a great place to be.
The way this is written sounds just like the grammatical format of the DO Fernando. Hi, Fernando.

Let's talk about how the company will constantly mislead you and misrepresent how long you will be a "FO". They're going to hire you onto a Phenom as an FO but you're not going to get trained for a very long time. Their training program for in-house SIC's was actually revoked by the FAA because of their failure to actually have any literature pertaining to anything other than the Phenom 100. I don't know the status of it now but that in itself is pretty sad for a company that has so many people working in the home office.

You are going to fly 4-8 legs a day. Everyday is a 14 hour duty day. The 300's fly the most. There was countless times that we would have a 14 hour duty day and have to reposition part 91. They push you till your limits, and numerous times you'll be setting up the airplane to turn around for that 91 reposition and go into the FBO and find your captain passed out from exhaustion.

The pay is below industry standard. In your interview they're going to explain their bonus structure but what they fail to tell you is that VERY rarely you will actually hit it. I was pretty much told I would be hitting my bonus 90% of the time and so it was factored into my total compensation I was expecting. Most people only hit it 1-2 times a year. There is a lot of tension among pilots because of the way they do their tier pay. Lots of folks are coming on straight into tier 4 or even higher and there's guys that have been there for years still on tier 2 or 3 pay. It's pretty messed up also that a 5 year PC12 captain makes less than a straight hire tier 4 Latitude FO. Oh, and when you move up to captain, they take you down a tier. What other company in the country does that??

You don't come here to stay. You come to NA to get your time and get out. The issue here is a lot of SIC's and PIC's spent 12-18 months at the company before you get a SIC rating. So you're busting your balls working a strenuous schedule trying to perform the company, for lackluster pay and what do you get in the end? No hours logged. Don't even try to log those right seat hours in a single pilot jet without an SIC. What a waste of time.

The CEO himself numerous times has explosive outbreaks. Not the kind of guy you can be happy to say you work for. He inherited all of his money anyways.

Though I mentioned Fernando in a negative light, he seems to be the only one standing firm and trying to improve things. I hope he does well and can bring up pay, QOL and atmosphere at this company. It won't happen overnight though.

There's too many quality operators hiring now. Stay away from this place for now. It'll only lead to dreams that won't get fulfilled and come at the expense of your health and well being. I'm getting out of here the first chance I get. Might even buy out my contract.
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Old 12-03-2019, 08:14 PM
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No sir, I did not write the post and I don’t do forums much. An employee sent me this tread so I thought I’d reply.
When I make a statement, I use my name (Fernando), I don’t hide behind user names. I am true and I hope you can appreciate that.

I came to Nicholas air this past March. I’ve been here for +8 months, not 3yrs like the post shows. I came here after some research and I found this company to be a good company and came to make it a great company. We have made some great improvements in the last 8 months in terms of technology and procedures and I am e cited about our pilots and staff.

I know it’s easy to express opinion hiding behind a callsign but imagine the advancements that can be made in a company when we sit and speak with management as opposed to smearing an organization behind the comfort of a username. Perhaps it’s the new culture.

Our employees that (including pilots) that have taken the time to sit and talk have seen positive changes realized.

Thank you for those of you who have supported our efforts and advancements that have been made since I began at Nicholas Air. I don’t talk, I do.

I’m here to serve you and to serve with you.
We move forward together.
Happy Holidays and continuous blessings.

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Old 12-04-2019, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Flyingjuan145 View Post
No sir, I did not write the post and I don’t do forums much. An employee sent me this tread so I thought I’d reply.
When I make a statement, I use my name (Fernando), I don’t hide behind user names. I am true and I hope you can appreciate that.

I came to Nicholas air this past March. I’ve been here for +8 months, not 3yrs like the post shows. I came here after some research and I found this company to be a good company and came to make it a great company. We have made some great improvements in the last 8 months in terms of technology and procedures and I am e cited about our pilots and staff.

I know it’s easy to express opinion hiding behind a callsign but imagine the advancements that can be made in a company when we sit and speak with management as opposed to smearing an organization behind the comfort of a username. Perhaps it’s the new culture.

Our employees that (including pilots) that have taken the time to sit and talk have seen positive changes realized.

Thank you for those of you who have supported our efforts and advancements that have been made since I began at Nicholas Air. I don’t talk, I do.

I’m here to serve you and to serve with you.
We move forward together.
Happy Holidays and continuous blessings.
Well Fernando, can you address why NA has such an extremely high turnover rate?

I'm sure you want to improve things there, but people who know enough about how that place is run also know that you are never going to change the culture there. It starts above you! It's a toxic work environment for all, but especially pilots. The reasons are all outlined in the posts above. Yeah, you've got a small core of koolaide drinkers who will vouch for the place, but the numbers don't lie.

Oh, and the part about using real names....you know the reason why people don't where this place is concerned!
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Old 02-19-2021, 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by captain27 View Post
The way this is written sounds just like the grammatical format of the DO Fernando. Hi, Fernando.

Let's talk about how the company will constantly mislead you and misrepresent how long you will be a "FO". They're going to hire you onto a Phenom as an FO but you're not going to get trained for a very long time. Their training program for in-house SIC's was actually revoked by the FAA because of their failure to actually have any literature pertaining to anything other than the Phenom 100. I don't know the status of it now but that in itself is pretty sad for a company that has so many people working in the home office.

You are going to fly 4-8 legs a day. Everyday is a 14 hour duty day. The 300's fly the most. There was countless times that we would have a 14 hour duty day and have to reposition part 91. They push you till your limits, and numerous times you'll be setting up the airplane to turn around for that 91 reposition and go into the FBO and find your captain passed out from exhaustion.

The pay is below industry standard. In your interview they're going to explain their bonus structure but what they fail to tell you is that VERY rarely you will actually hit it. I was pretty much told I would be hitting my bonus 90% of the time and so it was factored into my total compensation I was expecting. Most people only hit it 1-2 times a year. There is a lot of tension among pilots because of the way they do their tier pay. Lots of folks are coming on straight into tier 4 or even higher and there's guys that have been there for years still on tier 2 or 3 pay. It's pretty messed up also that a 5 year PC12 captain makes less than a straight hire tier 4 Latitude FO. Oh, and when you move up to captain, they take you down a tier. What other company in the country does that??

You don't come here to stay. You come to NA to get your time and get out. The issue here is a lot of SIC's and PIC's spent 12-18 months at the company before you get a SIC rating. So you're busting your balls working a strenuous schedule trying to perform the company, for lackluster pay and what do you get in the end? No hours logged. Don't even try to log those right seat hours in a single pilot jet without an SIC. What a waste of time.

The CEO himself numerous times has explosive outbreaks. Not the kind of guy you can be happy to say you work for. He inherited all of his money anyways.

Though I mentioned Fernando in a negative light, he seems to be the only one standing firm and trying to improve things. I hope he does well and can bring up pay, QOL and atmosphere at this company. It won't happen overnight though.

There's too many quality operators hiring now. Stay away from this place for now. It'll only lead to dreams that won't get fulfilled and come at the expense of your health and well being. I'm getting out of here the first chance I get. Might even buy out my contract.
Thank you for the update. I was recently forced into early retirement when ExpressJet folded up shop last September. I'll be 64 next month, so another airline job is not promising. Not enough cash in the IRA to fully retire at this point, so looking for a jet charter gig. Any further info on Nicholas would be appreciated, along with recommendations for other home-based operations.
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by TomMc1881 View Post
Thank you for the update. I was recently forced into early retirement when ExpressJet folded up shop last September. I'll be 64 next month, so another airline job is not promising. Not enough cash in the IRA to fully retire at this point, so looking for a jet charter gig. Any further info on Nicholas would be appreciated, along with recommendations for other home-based operations.
Stay far away. If you want to work somewhere good where they actually try to make it a place you WANT to work, (instead of a place where they force you to work through an endentured servitude training contract), have a look at Wheels Up, or really, almost anywhere else. You won’t be sorry.

I was at NA for 11 months, a few years ago, and (at the risk of outing who I am), I’m involved in being sued by them for the “promissory note,” non-prorated, 150% of the cost of training, even though I left them due to multiple breaches of my contract on their part—which is specifically a non-repayment situation. They don’t care. NJ is a bully and an a-hole.

They will make you sign a non-prorated “promissory note” for 12 months (in my case), but they don’t start the 12 month calendar until you finish IOE, which they will drag out as long as possible. For me, three months, when it should have been 1-2 tours max (like everywhere else I’ve worked). You’ll still be under that contract months after the training in question is no longer valid, and they’ll ant you to sign another one for recurrent, with both in effect at the same time. (at least, that’s how it was).

Every single bad thing you’ve read about them in this thread is 100% true.

They refused to pay me a few times for scheduled days off that I worked. They tried to get me to break duty/rest regulations a few times, but I wouldn’t do it. The (then) DO told me to “stop annoying me with that GOM bullsh*t”, when I pointed out the company’s own GOM said ALL flights would be treated as part 135, and that it also spelled out the duty and rest requirements for all aircrew, and that section was part 135 crew duty/rest regulations word for word. He told me, more than once, that the GOM isn’t regulatory! Just remember who’s ultimately responsible if anything goes wrong (hint: It starts with the letters P I C). I honestly can’t believe they haven’t lost their certificate, specially after the FAA investigation confirmed they had been threatening to fire pilots who refused to break duty/rest regulations. One of he guys I flew with, who took over an airplane when I went off tour, told me they played that 135/91 switcheroo and had him on duty for almost 18 hours, with no compensatory rest.
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Old 08-11-2021, 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by badtransam97 View Post
Everyone at NA is single pilot typed and op specs allow single pilot with use of autopilot. The true SIC's they use aren't typed, but they do fly with two type rated CA's often.
Are they still flying passengers around who think they have two typed pilots in the front, when they only have one typed capt, and an untrained, unqualified observer in the right seat? I always wondered what those paying clients would say if they knew that.
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Old 09-16-2021, 04:11 AM
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Originally Posted by ATRPropWash View Post
thx ey. The bad comments I saw here are pretty rough but seems like you have had good experience. My current 135 seems to have the job jumpers that leave right away for bigger planes and then badmouth the company for any reason once they leave to make themselves feel justified. My guess is this is the same case here?
Interview is on Thursday next week.

Well, did you sign the deal with the Devil at NA
, the owner is all BAD. RUN AWAY.
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