Nicholas Air
02-20-2016, 06:32 AM
#21
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Originally Posted by PilotSam
Hummmmm, you paint a complexly different picture then what I have been told. In Dec and Jan, 7 captain and 3 FO either left or gave notice(a required 90 day) and several more in Feb. and FO do not get paid for working extra days. From what I understand several of the FO's have a continue to work 24 to 40 days in a row and when they ask for time off. . . . They get push back from the company. All of this after the 8/6 schedule. I was thinking of applying but have changed my mind and I am aware of several others that have done the same. Commuting from ATL or being home based my aviation career simpler then others. Aviation is a small world....the real picture has a way of getting out.
ATL should open up alot of doors for you. Have you tried planesense? they have 8/6 for FO's, the pay is not quite as good, and the raise structure is not nearly as generous but you wouldnt have to take the risk of no schedule?
I do know why one FO left....pm for details
02-24-2016, 09:42 PM
#22
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 23
Originally Posted by ak68W
Not sure how the picture i painted is that all that different....just a little clarification, and some other points. 7 captains did not leave in two months. I did say the FO's do not have a schedule, and thus do stay out on the road for long times, and obviously don't have WDO pay. I would not agree to that, but if you come in as an FO, they make no bones about it, and tell you straight up that there is no schedule. Since i have done my type, and 299 ride, my schedule has been rock solid. The most I have done before I got online was 11 days. I also have had a whole rotation off giving me 3 weeks off last year. I have flown with an FO who has had over two weeks off, this is not the norm but it happens. I do know one FO who was complaining about working for 56 days in a row but he asked them to stay out as long as possible lol. They are trying to hire enough people to have a standby crew for each airframe, so that one rotation, you sit stanby at home, and enough where we can get some PTO hopefully. I think eventually we will go to CA on CA....but that is just my hypothesis, and it does happen not infrequently now.
ATL should open up alot of doors for you. Have you tried planesense? they have 8/6 for FO's, the pay is not quite as good, and the raise structure is not nearly as generous but you wouldnt have to take the risk of no schedule?
I do know why one FO left....pm for details
ATL should open up alot of doors for you. Have you tried planesense? they have 8/6 for FO's, the pay is not quite as good, and the raise structure is not nearly as generous but you wouldnt have to take the risk of no schedule?
I do know why one FO left....pm for details
02-29-2016, 03:01 AM
#23
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 199
Congrats on the job offer! I've met some gamma people on the road and they seem like good people as well.
No 100 captains have left since at least may or July. Not 100% on the 300 side but but I don't believe we've had any in a while, but I don't see their schedule. We have lost one pc12 ca, and one pc12 fo.
I have never been bullied. We used to have Cigna at the wife's job when Obama care hit as they took our blue cross. (If you like your insurance you can keep it) and it was definitely not for us, so we started paying 100% out of pocket for blue cross again. We got obamacared for a 3rd time this December and were kicked off another plan that we were told that if we liked we could keep so now we are on the company plan which is not the best but better than Cigna. They do not contribute a whole lot to it though.
As far as pay I believe WU is frozen at 80k right?
No 100 captains have left since at least may or July. Not 100% on the 300 side but but I don't believe we've had any in a while, but I don't see their schedule. We have lost one pc12 ca, and one pc12 fo.
I have never been bullied. We used to have Cigna at the wife's job when Obama care hit as they took our blue cross. (If you like your insurance you can keep it) and it was definitely not for us, so we started paying 100% out of pocket for blue cross again. We got obamacared for a 3rd time this December and were kicked off another plan that we were told that if we liked we could keep so now we are on the company plan which is not the best but better than Cigna. They do not contribute a whole lot to it though.
As far as pay I believe WU is frozen at 80k right?
03-01-2016, 12:02 PM
#24
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 23
Originally Posted by ak68W
Congrats on the job offer! I've met some gamma people on the road and they seem like good people as well.
No 100 captains have left since at least may or July. Not 100% on the 300 side but but I don't believe we've had any in a while, but I don't see their schedule. We have lost one pc12 ca, and one pc12 fo.
I have never been bullied. We used to have Cigna at the wife's job when Obama care hit as they took our blue cross. (If you like your insurance you can keep it) and it was definitely not for us, so we started paying 100% out of pocket for blue cross again. We got obamacared for a 3rd time this December and were kicked off another plan that we were told that if we liked we could keep so now we are on the company plan which is not the best but better than Cigna. They do not contribute a whole lot to it though.
As far as pay I believe WU is frozen at 80k right?
No 100 captains have left since at least may or July. Not 100% on the 300 side but but I don't believe we've had any in a while, but I don't see their schedule. We have lost one pc12 ca, and one pc12 fo.
I have never been bullied. We used to have Cigna at the wife's job when Obama care hit as they took our blue cross. (If you like your insurance you can keep it) and it was definitely not for us, so we started paying 100% out of pocket for blue cross again. We got obamacared for a 3rd time this December and were kicked off another plan that we were told that if we liked we could keep so now we are on the company plan which is not the best but better than Cigna. They do not contribute a whole lot to it though.
As far as pay I believe WU is frozen at 80k right?
03-01-2016, 05:50 PM
#25
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Joined APC: Jun 2014
Posts: 199
Originally Posted by PilotSam
Frozen, I don't think so . . . . PM me and I will tell you the 7 captains who have left in the last 4 months, I have spoken to them to get the low down on NA and their tactics. There are many dissatisfied employees there at NA because of poor management and the fall out will be continious, being a woman in aviation is difficult enough, I just don't have time to be involved with a company that is not focused on creating a positive environment.
03-06-2016, 05:04 PM
#26
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Joined APC: Jun 2011
Posts: 23
Originally Posted by ak68W
I'm sorry you feel that way, and am glad that you don't have to be involved here! Good luck with Gama or boutique or wherever you say your at depending on the thread. It is definitely the high side of the swell in the hiring right now so I am glad you have plenty of options!
05-29-2016, 08:40 AM
#27
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Joined APC: Jun 2015
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Posts: 1,807
Originally Posted by ak68W
I'm sorry you feel that way, and am glad that you don't have to be involved here! Good luck with Gama or boutique or wherever you say your at depending on the thread. It is definitely the high side of the swell in the hiring right now so I am glad you have plenty of options!
How many more Latitudes will you guys add? No doubt it will be popular with passengers and looks fun to fly too...
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