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12-04-2016 | 07:24 PM

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LivnthedrM

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Word is they only pay the Latitude pilots $60k. Bottom line, they offer low pay attached with contracts because pilots are still accepting the job. Things won't change until they can't find anyone.

12-04-2016 | 09:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ak68W

They Just put out a hiring email looking for internal recs.

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Originally Posted by LivnthedrM

Word is they only pay the Latitude pilots $60k. Bottom line, they offer low pay attached with contracts because pilots are still accepting the job. Things won't change until they can't find anyone.

Then anyone on the inside "helping" a friend with internal recs is just hurting themselves. The pilots at GAMA/Wheels Up learned that the hard way, until finally the attrition from 6-3 schedule there resulted in a revolving door with new hires leaving with their fresh KA350 Type Rating, forced them to switch to the 8/6 schedule. The same at Executive Airshare.. 12/3 schedule to a 10/5 (still awful, but better).

Help yourself and don't help NA Management keep you guys down. Spread the word for your friends NOT to come there until the beatings stop.

12-07-2016 | 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by LivnthedrM

Word is they only pay the Latitude pilots $60k. Bottom line, they offer low pay attached with contracts because pilots are still accepting the job. Things won't change until they can't find anyone.

Not true and no, I won't speak to actual pay scales. While there's things to complain about at every 135 operator, there's plenty of non-truths being stated in this thread. If you don't or haven't worked at Nicholas Air, watch your opinions. I can cite at least 4 friends who had an interview date or hiring offer pulled because of something an employer found online and linked to them.

01-04-2017 | 02:09 PM

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Are they utilizing SICs in the Pilatus and if so what are the mins?

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01-05-2017 | 09:29 AM

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Are they utilizing SICs in the Pilatus and if so what are the mins?

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SICs are not used in the PC12, only the Phenom 100/300. And you can't log SIC in the jets since they are single pilot aircraft. Starting pay is extremely low for SICs and there really isn't a set schedule for SICs either.

01-05-2017 | 09:58 AM

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"...And you can't log SIC in the jets since they are single pilot aircraft..."

Can you explain this sentence?

are you telling me, just because the phenoms are single pilot jets, you cant log SIC?!?
so all these guys at Netjets and other fractionals, making 80K + year, are paid and are not even logging time???

01-05-2017 | 11:46 AM

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The pic will have to have obtained the single pilot rating in order for that to be true. It is actually a statement on the pilot NOT rated for single pilot. SIC required.

01-05-2017 | 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Ifly4u2c

"...And you can't log SIC in the jets since they are single pilot aircraft..."

Can you explain this sentence?

If the aircraft type certificate data sheet says the plane can be flown with just a single pilot, and that pilot is qualified as such, the other guy/gal is not a required crew member and can't log SIC time. Most jets, including the ones at Net Jets are two pilot aircraft where an SIC is required.

01-05-2017 | 04:50 PM

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Ifly4u2c

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Originally Posted by piloto2

What you mean is depends on the airplane ( in this case Phenoms ) and the OPS of the company you are flying for. If the company requires 2 pilots, you can log SIC, If only requires one pilot, that pilot has to be SINGLE PILOT qualified AND the airplane needs to have a working A/P, etc...

Last time I went for my recurrent, there was only one flight department in the US, that was doing single pilot 135 ops. So unless you belong to that particular company, or you fly for a 91 owner, you most likely can log the SIC time on the phenom.

01-05-2017 | 05:04 PM

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Everyone at NA is single pilot typed and op specs allow single pilot with use of autopilot. The true SIC's they use aren't typed, but they do fly with two type rated CA's often.