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07-05-2018 | 07:13 PM

#2151

Jetalc

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From: A320 Series CA

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Originally Posted by OpenClimb

I’d expect a little pushback from ALPA. I don’t know how this cannot be considered a violation of status quo. I can’t remember a time in over 14 years where they’ve cancelled vacations.

You read my mind. There are way too many things the company has initiated that are out of the "Status Quo" for them to be throwing stones, especially when NONE of the stones they are throwing have any merit whatsoever.

07-05-2018 | 07:45 PM

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Desert Sky

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What would you guys think of a soon to be Allegiant/Frontier Merger?

07-06-2018 | 01:18 AM

#2153

ReserveCA

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Wow
This mgmnt “team” has screwed the operation up SO badly....
That now they are in desperate CYA mode and cancelling vacations?

HEY NMB....... when is enough enough?

07-06-2018 | 05:09 AM

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LakeshoreFlyer

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Originally Posted by Prettywhacked1

NOW this is getting interesting.......
Any bets for more of the same every month.........until.......?
Nuttier than squirrel poop, these fine powers that be.......

This is pretty personal. Screwing around with vacation, especially in Summertime. Could backfire on The Company. No one likes their scheduled off-time messed around with.

Per the CBA, remember: If you’re vacation is canceled you can carry it over to 2019. IF there is a new contract by then you can parlay that into better money for vacation drop next year with better pay rates established. Also, if you suffer a non-refundable cost for your vacation cancellation then the Company is required to reimburse you.

07-06-2018 | 05:48 AM

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Mugatu

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Originally Posted by LakeshoreFlyer

Per the CBA, remember: If you’re vacation is canceled you can carry it over to 2019. IF there is a new contract by then you can parlay that into better money for vacation drop next year with better pay rates established.

I have to look it up but I believe it’s at the company’s discretion to carry it to 2019 or pay you out. I’ll double check when I get home but guess which option the company will take.

07-06-2018 | 05:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Desert Sky

What would you guys think of a soon to be Allegiant/Frontier Merger?

I don’t know what rumors you’re hearing on your side of the fence but...

It wouldn’t be a merger, it would be a Frontier buyout of Allegiant. Allegiant hasn’t proven they WANT to be in the airline business but it’s a part of their leisure business, for now. If it were up to me I’d trim the fat, convert to airbus, ditch the bad reputation with a charm offensive and sell it for whatever I could get for it. Sound familiar?

So let me ask you, what do YOU think of the idea? Do you know what “whipsaw” means? What about “amalgamation”? WTF!!!

07-06-2018 | 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugatu

I have to look it up but I believe it’s at the company’s discretion to carry it to 2019 or pay you out. I’ll double check when I get home but guess which option the company will take.

Correct. You can have elect to reschedule your cancelled vacation to a time later in the year if there’s an open period to be found. Otherwise, AT THE COMPANY’S OPTION, you can push it to the next year or be paid 4.167 hours for each day cancelled.

I’m afraid this little move may end up being the “shot heard ‘round the world.”

07-06-2018 | 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Mugatu

I have to look it up but I believe it’s at the company’s discretion to carry it to 2019 or pay you out. I’ll double check when I get home but guess which option the company will take.

I’ll save you the time. I’d bet a bottle of Blue Label they just pay it out at the measly rates dictated by the current contract.

“...the pilot may elect to be rescheduled...during that calendar year...if the pilot elects not to be...AT THE COMPANY’S OPTION...pilot may defer to following calendar year or be paid in lieu of...”

07-06-2018 | 06:22 AM

#2159

LakeshoreFlyer

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From: A320/CA

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Originally Posted by Mugatu

I have to look it up but I believe it’s at the company’s discretion to carry it to 2019 or pay you out. I’ll double check when I get home but guess which option the company will take.

To the best of my knowledge you are correct.