Frontier Negotiations Discussion
10-01-2018, 10:48 AM
#2451
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Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
There was a rumor coming from guys attending RGS a couple weeks ago that a management pilot was telling guys that the company called for the meeting. For what it's worth.
However, if the company can call a meeting, and we can't, that just shows how screwed we are.
10-01-2018, 10:54 AM
#2452
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Originally Posted by FlyingR6
I dont buy that for a minute. If either party can just call a meeting, we would have called for one a couple months after the NMB denied our proffer.
However, if the company can call a meeting, and we can't, that just shows how screwed we are.
However, if the company can call a meeting, and we can't, that just shows how screwed we are.
This could be a sign the company is struggling to hire enough pilots to staff their fleet growth plans.
This seems plausible to me but I am not getting my hopes up.
10-01-2018, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by butthert
Maybe .. But just playing devil's advocate - If one party went to the NMB and said they have a legitimate offer, the NMB would be obliged to bring both parties to the table.
This could be a sign the company is struggling to hire enough pilots to staff their fleet growth plans.
This seems plausible to me but I am not getting my hopes up.
This could be a sign the company is struggling to hire enough pilots to staff their fleet growth plans.
This seems plausible to me but I am not getting my hopes up.
10-01-2018, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I asked last week at a PUB event if they thought the company would be bringing an offer and York said no. If they were interested in presenting an offer they didn’t need to wait for an NMB meeting because they know where to find us.
10-01-2018, 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Wheelswatch
There was a rumor coming from guys attending RGS a couple weeks ago that a management pilot was telling guys that the company called for the meeting. For what it's worth.
Call your reps or find a P2P volunteer........ your MEC speaks for you
10-01-2018, 06:27 PM
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The NMB is probably pretty worthless to you guys at this point; so hoping the NMB will push the company, is probably a pipe dream at best.
At Spirit the NMB was criticial to push the company to a specific point; about September 2017, after that they were there telling us we needed to take the deal.
We were the ones who ended up requesting to meet after being placed on ice; the company was savining something like $9mil a month without having a new contract and the NMB was like “suck it pilots”
I don’t know what the union ask is currently for you guy and/or what the company offer is, compared to the Spirit deal. But, the NMB told us over and over “you need to take this deal” and we had zero chance of release (lawsuit on us or not).
As long as the company can cover flying, they will continue to sit back and relax. The NMB will be zero help.
Might be a tough pill for some to accept. We had plenty here who thought the NMB would say “you guys deserve Delta rates,” but the NMB was more like “you guys need to accept these rates”.
Cold truth of it.
At Spirit the NMB was criticial to push the company to a specific point; about September 2017, after that they were there telling us we needed to take the deal.
We were the ones who ended up requesting to meet after being placed on ice; the company was savining something like $9mil a month without having a new contract and the NMB was like “suck it pilots”
I don’t know what the union ask is currently for you guy and/or what the company offer is, compared to the Spirit deal. But, the NMB told us over and over “you need to take this deal” and we had zero chance of release (lawsuit on us or not).
As long as the company can cover flying, they will continue to sit back and relax. The NMB will be zero help.
Might be a tough pill for some to accept. We had plenty here who thought the NMB would say “you guys deserve Delta rates,” but the NMB was more like “you guys need to accept these rates”.
Cold truth of it.
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