TOGALOCK

As you said, everything is subject to change and the result of many variables, but the snapshot for this moment in time...

- All stored airplanes currently in the process of coming out of storage and all should be flying again by April.
- The new aircraft deliveries that were deferred from this year will be arriving next year (2021) in addition to the other planned 2021 deliveries (so in short, lots of new planes on property next year).
- Loads are picking up and ticket prices are slowly going up as well. BB did mention that the latest spike in covid cases has caused a small drop off in bookings, but nothing like we saw during the smaller summer case spike.
- BB has said that the bleeding and concern for survival is over (hopefully stays that way) and focus has shifted to planning hiring and new base openings. We currently have about 1b in liquidity and, the last we heard about a month ago, we were burning about 1m, give or take, per day.
- Rumored hiring as early as January. However, there is also talk that new hires would be hired into zero hour lines, but could have normal lines right away if things pick up enough. So, if that is true and you are already at a paying flying job (ie. not furloughed) you may find yourself having a tough decision and gamble to make.
- With the bad rap F9 has gotten over the past few months for Covid cancellations, new customer service and passenger rebooking and changing policies have just gone into effect. Hopefully it’ll make people more likely to book tickets without the concern of getting hosed.

I randomly look at the loads daily out of our bases and focus cities and, while there is the occasional dud flight, I’m always very impressed with the planned passenger loads. Lots of full and nearly full flight out there on both 320s and 321s. The desire to travel is there. It’s just a matter of people finally getting out and doing it. Hopefully things stay on this path and you will be getting a call sooner than later. If I had to place a bet, I’d say plan on getting a call between now and April. With the vaccine news just announced today, hopefully public confidence in a recovery and virus control is going to improve. When the public perception improves, so does our livelihood.

Aero1900

Plus, it looks like the Pfizer covid vaccine did really well in trial. 90% effective.

Once its approved and being distributed, hopefully this whole sh*t show will start to pass

7051

Thank you for the synopsis. It really helps those of us that are in limbo. Hopefully we will see you all out on the line sooner than later.

fcoolaiddrinker

I completely agree on that and was more than ready to do it. It’s why I was able to do a 6 month cola. Strike fund was still intact. We could go back and forth all day. There was way more positives than negatives in my mind. In the end I liked the agreement and you didn’t. We disagree. No problem.

TurboFanMan

78 percent agrees with us. He’s part of the 22 percent. I’m fine with that. lol

Gary et al

I was part of the 22 percent, but have never been unhappy with the contract, just felt we could have cleaned things up a bit better and improved language in certain areas and if it took a few months to get that I was willing to wait. At the time there was never a better time to be in negotiations, other than the fact the Trump administration would never let us strike. Problem I did fear was that it probably wouldn't be a few months because there wouldn't be a cohesive reason from the group of what to fix, and that was probably the reality. But again I'm not one who is unhappy with the contract, and given that a pandemic came and upended the industry, we are lucky we did it when we did. So thanks

fcoolaiddrinker

That kind of would have depended on the % no vote. 51-49 no would have been a 3-4 month delay to gain whatever issues polling revealed, within reason. Money would have to be moved around because the total economic value would not have changed much. Now a large no % and the negotiating committee as well as most of the mec would need to be replaced. That’s close to a year or More. Costing tens of thousands per pilot on average and taking a decade at least to make up if you still had that long. The whole time gambling there’s no 2001,2007, or 2020. I can tell you almost every language issue that existed in the previous agreement have been fixed. Now some will be revealed in the new agreement but nothing like before. Expanded definitions, examples and negotiation recordings will help.They’ll just need to be worked out through the grievance process which has also been fixed.

TOGALOCK

My quick cocktail napkin math at the time put me at just over 14 years to recoup what I would have lost with a 1 year delay. That didn’t even include lost company funded retirement contributions. Very glad we have what we did going into 2020.

monkeybrains

You really don't do your namesake justice at all.

CantStayAway

I was a no vote for a few reasons, but the largest 2 were the reassignment language (which has yet to be implemented) and PBS. If I’d seen what we were going to get with PBS that wouldn’t have been a hang up for me. I think we did really well with our PBS rules (like the provision to sell your vacation and still build a 90 hour line). I hope once the app is released and the reassignment language is allowed to be used that my fears about it’s abuse were also unfounded.