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Old 11-22-2020, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by dracir1 View Post
If we somehow have 3 Florida bases that are all within a 3 hour drive of each other (and all susceptible to hurricane delays, etc.), we'd have to be the dumbest airline ever...

We should plan on making Ontario, Orange County and LAX all bases as well
You really gotta be a special kind of moron to think that crew planning is based on the once in 5 year occurence of a hurricane in Florida.

Delving even further into this hurricane nonsense, has it occurred to you MCO and MIA are 200 some miles apart?

The low level of intelligence here.... I mean it borders on the scary side that you fly airplanes.
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Old 11-22-2020, 04:49 AM
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The low level of intelligence here.... I mean it borders on the scary side that you fly airplanes.
Like someone trying to start a jumpseat war? You don’t have room to talk!
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Old 11-22-2020, 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by 303flyboy View Post
PHX ONT 2021. RDU 2022.

you heard it here first
Wow. Putting that money on the dark horse RDU? I would think we open more than one base in 2022 and maybe just maybe a 3rd in 2021.
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Old 11-23-2020, 07:40 AM
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Originally Posted by ElCaribe View Post
Yeah, they’re not buying any part of AA or any major airline for that matter. ALGT doesn’t have that much cash. There’s a reason they’re flying clapped out old airplanes and Public bus fare ticket prices. It works and makes money, but they’re not near big enough to try and compete with the other carriers outside there niche market.
You’re funny. Allegiant is small, but per capita, is the most profitable, has the least debt, and the most cash on hand. Of course it’s a lower total amount than Delta, but a way higher percentage overall.
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
You’re funny. Allegiant is small, but per capita, is the most profitable, has the least debt, and the most cash on hand. Of course it’s a lower total amount than Delta, but a way higher percentage overall.
Well, you are currently about the same size as Frontier (just over 100 planes?) and, according to your quarterly results, you ended Q2 with just shy of 58 million cash on hand with 643 million in long term debt. By comparison, F9 had just under 625 million cash on hand with just under 105 million in long term debt and turned a small profit in Q2. There’s obviously much more that goes into the health of a company than just those metrics, but I’m just addressing the comparisons you mentioned. I’m not saying that Allegiant isn’t in a better position than a lot of other airlines, but you really need to step away from the koolaid. I think you may have OD’d and it might be time to induce vomiting and contact a poison control center immediately.

https://www.transtats.bts.gov/databa...&Subject_ID2=0
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Well, you are currently about the same size as Frontier (just over 100 planes?) and, according to your quarterly results, you ended Q2 with just shy of 58 million cash on hand with 643 million in long term debt. By comparison, F9 had just under 625 million cash on hand with just under 105 million in long term debt and turned a small profit in Q2. There’s obviously much more that goes into the health of a company than just those metrics, but I’m just addressing the comparisons you mentioned. I’m not saying that Allegiant isn’t in a better position than a lot of other airlines, but you really need to step away from the koolaid. I think you may have OD’d and it might be time to induce vomiting and contact a poison control center immediately.

https://www.transtats.bts.gov/databa...&Subject_ID2=0
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Stepped on a pop top
Cut my heel, had to cruise on back home
But there's booze in the blender
And soon it will render
That frozen concoction that helps me hang on

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Old 11-23-2020, 08:37 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Well, you are currently about the same size as Frontier (just over 100 planes?) and, according to your quarterly results, you ended Q2 with just shy of 58 million cash on hand with 643 million in long term debt. By comparison, F9 had just under 625 million cash on hand with just under 105 million in long term debt and turned a small profit in Q2. There’s obviously much more that goes into the health of a company than just those metrics, but I’m just addressing the comparisons you mentioned. I’m not saying that Allegiant isn’t in a better position than a lot of other airlines, but you really need to step away from the koolaid. I think you may have OD’d and it might be time to induce vomiting and contact a poison control center immediately.

https://www.transtats.bts.gov/databa...&Subject_ID2=0
Frontier is privately held. Can any of those number be verified, or is it because they said so?
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:43 AM
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Originally Posted by DrJekyll MrHyde View Post
I blew out my flip flop
Stepped on a pop top
Cut my heel, had to cruise on back home
But there's booze in the blender
And soon it will render
That frozen concoction that helps me hang on

Wastin' away again in Margaritaville
Searchin' for my lost shaker of salt
Some people claim that there's a woman to blame
But I know, it's my own damn fault
I've heard that song before too, but it's more a state of mind.

Don't forget the lost verse, written for those pilots in white New Balance, with phone holsters on Caribbean layovers:

Old men in tank tops, cruising the gift shops.
Checking out the chiquitas down by the shore.
They dream about weight loss, wish they could be their own boss.
Those three day vacations become such a bore.
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Old 11-23-2020, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
Frontier is privately held. Can any of those number be verified, or is it because they said so?
Yes. All airlines in the United States, whether public or privately held, are required to report quarterly financials to the DOT. It’s federal law. Lying about or misrepresenting those numbers would be a violation of said federal law. I guess I mistakenly assumed that an apparent airline finance expert such as yourself would have known that.

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Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
Frontier is privately held. Can any of those number be verified, or is it because they said so?
Is that how you do your taxes?
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