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Old 11-21-2020, 08:53 AM
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Originally Posted by TOGALOCK View Post
Well, we may work for different airlines, but we both still work for the airlines... Keep that seat next to you open when you get to the bar. I’ll be there shortly. 😁
I'll see you there. Just be sure to keep it between the navigational beacons.
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Old 11-21-2020, 09:38 AM
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It kind of seems to be their thing to eat the leftovers.
Have you seen Barry? He seems to do ok on leftovers...
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Old 11-21-2020, 11:16 AM
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We were supposed to open TPA this summer over PHX precovid. I wouldn’t count it out as a front runner. We were already securing the crew room.
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Old 11-21-2020, 01:52 PM
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A Tampa domicile might be good for shaking up the old seniority list.

And by that I mean getting a couple more senior Denver guys out of my way
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Old 11-21-2020, 02:32 PM
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PHX ONT 2021. RDU 2022.

you heard it here first
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Old 11-21-2020, 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Notarealpilot View Post
We were supposed to open TPA this summer over PHX precovid. I wouldn’t count it out as a front runner. We were already securing the crew room.
Funny, I was told by the PHX Ops manager they were finalizing crew room accommodations there right after MIA was announced. I wouldn't bet the farm on either but I'm still guessing PHX.

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A Tampa domicile might be good for shaking up the old seniority list.

And by that I mean getting a couple more senior Denver guys out of my way
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Not as much as PHX.

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PHX ONT 2021. RDU 2022.

you heard it here first
Put me in the "ONT is a loooooong shot" camp.
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Old 11-21-2020, 03:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Notarealpilot View Post
We were supposed to open TPA this summer over PHX precovid. I wouldn’t count it out as a front runner. We were already securing the crew room.
If we somehow have 3 Florida bases that are all within a 3 hour drive of each other (and all susceptible to hurricane delays, etc.), we'd have to be the dumbest airline ever...

We should plan on making Ontario, Orange County and LAX all bases as well
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
I know you're joking, but the only way you are "merging" with Allegiant is if Indigo sells you to Allegiant. That's called an acquisition, not a merger. By the way, we are Teamsters, not ALPA.

Our stock price is currently $156, and the founder owns ~25% of it, so anyone hoping to buy us would have to come up with a huge premium above that already overvalued price. However, Allegiant has been wide open that they are flush with cash, and on the prowl for bargains. They made money all summer because of the CARES. Doubled their cash position. Now bragging they are cash neutral to slightly profitable.

I think if anything, they will make a play for American or its assets when they go bankrupt, and if that doesn't happen, try to buy out Frontier. Whether Frontier gets assimilated or dissolved in that situation, nobody could guess.

Or, the most likely option, Allegiant will continue to ignore all competition and industry norms, and continue to run their rusty 20 year old playbook of flying big planes to places nobody lives at , and still filling them up. Either way, it's very unlikely anyone is merging with or buying Allegiant.

Back to the topic, I wouldn't be surprised to see Frontier wade into already saturated markets like TPA/PIE, RSW/PGD, or PHX/IWA that we already serve. It kind of seems to be their thing to eat the leftovers.
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Old 11-21-2020, 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dracir1 View Post
If we somehow have 3 Florida bases that are all within a 3 hour drive of each other (and all susceptible to hurricane delays, etc.), we'd have to be the dumbest airline ever...
Allegiant fanboys are giving you side-eye right now 😆
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Old 11-21-2020, 08:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville View Post
I know you're joking, but the only way you are "merging" with Allegiant is if Indigo sells you to Allegiant. That's called an acquisition, not a merger. By the way, we are Teamsters, not ALPA.

Our stock price is currently $156, and the founder owns ~25% of it, so anyone hoping to buy us would have to come up with a huge premium above that already overvalued price. However, Allegiant has been wide open that they are flush with cash, and on the prowl for bargains. They made money all summer because of the CARES. Doubled their cash position. Now bragging they are cash neutral to slightly profitable.

I think if anything, they will make a play for American or its assets when they go bankrupt, and if that doesn't happen, try to buy out Frontier. Whether Frontier gets assimilated or dissolved in that situation, nobody could guess.

Or, the most likely option, Allegiant will continue to ignore all competition and industry norms, and continue to run their rusty 20 year old playbook of flying big planes to places nobody lives at , and still filling them up. Either way, it's very unlikely anyone is merging with or buying Allegiant.

Back to the topic, I wouldn't be surprised to see Frontier wade into already saturated markets like TPA/PIE, RSW/PGD, or PHX/IWA that we already serve. It kind of seems to be their thing to eat the leftovers.
Yeah, they’re not buying any part of AA or any major airline for that matter. ALGT doesn’t have that much cash. There’s a reason they’re flying clapped out old airplanes and Public bus fare ticket prices. It works and makes money, but they’re not near big enough to try and compete with the other carriers outside there niche market.
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