Hiring / training
#3921
It depends how many new hires need sims. We send new hires primarily to DEN and MCO these days. Ever since we started sending people to MCO there hasn’t been much need for LAS or MIA slots to be offered. We don’t own any of the sims outside the one or two in DEN so I’m sure the company only uses LAS when they absolutely have no other choice.
#3922
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Joined APC: Dec 2012
Posts: 2,101
Maybe these six have found a loophole in the loan repayment? Lol.
#3923
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Joined APC: May 2023
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Hey all, I'm a CFI about 250 out from ATP mins and I just got into the Cadet program so I'll be doing the type course and then moving on to Frontier Indoc after that. From what I've read, ground school is in DEN with the initial sims being in DEN or MCO. Just looking for a little bit of info on the day-to-day stuff of the sim schedule and training in general. 5 days a week, 7 days? I've read that you can make a request for the training location and I'm planning on moving to Floria so getting the MCO training spot would be nice. Any info is appreciated!
#3924
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 84
I know of at least 2 from the Feb class who have been waiting 4+ weeks to get an answer from the company on whether they can finish training. They got pulled after Sim 6 or 7 for poor performance. They bought them out to Denver last week for some kind of meeting, and last I checked they are still waiting to hear what their fate will be.
#3925
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Joined APC: Jun 2021
Position: Joystick Operator
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I know of at least 2 from the Feb class who have been waiting 4+ weeks to get an answer from the company on whether they can finish training. They got pulled after Sim 6 or 7 for poor performance. They bought them out to Denver last week for some kind of meeting, and last I checked they are still waiting to hear what their fate will be.
#3926
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Joined APC: Nov 2012
Position: 1900D CA
Posts: 3,394
Yeah. Who knows? I think our training department is doing a fairly good job based on the newbie’s I’m flying with. That’s all I can really go by. Besides refusing to pass someone that shouldn’t pass is what’s supposed to happen. That’s not a failure on the training department.
And sometimes people aren't going to make it though. Unfortunately reality
#3927
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Posts: 84
I think it was combination of issues. They were sim partners. One was coming from a regional but wasn't there long enough to even consolidate, the other was a fresh 1,000 CFI with 25 hours of multi time. The PDT guy seemed like he just didn't put the effort in, meanwhile the CFI was just struggling with all the new concepts that go along with flying a jet. Pair them together and the chances of success are certainly not high.
#3928
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Joined APC: Oct 2013
Posts: 1,666
Hey all, I'm a CFI about 250 out from ATP mins and I just got into the Cadet program so I'll be doing the type course and then moving on to Frontier Indoc after that. From what I've read, ground school is in DEN with the initial sims being in DEN or MCO. Just looking for a little bit of info on the day-to-day stuff of the sim schedule and training in general. 5 days a week, 7 days? I've read that you can make a request for the training location and I'm planning on moving to Floria so getting the MCO training spot would be nice. Any info is appreciated!
#3930
• 3 weeks of ground school
• 6 FTD (then the oral portion of the checkride a separate day)
• 10 sim
The sim is actually 8 training sessions; #9 is the checkride and 10 is LOFT.
Our class was so big that about half went directly to FTD after ground school. The other half of us got to go home for about 3 weeks. That could be an extreme outlier, who knows. Especially if they start splitting up to 2x classes a month instead of one giant class.
So after that 3 week break, I had all 6 FTD in a row. Oral was early, flew home. 5 days off. Sim 1-5, then 5 more off. Last batch of 5 (of which the final two were the aforementioned checkride and loft). I think some people had more like 3-4 FTD then some time off, then back. But probably safe to expect a 5ish on 5ish off pattern, once you are in that phase.
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