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03-10-2026 | 12:18 AM
#1181
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Flying planes is a job. Being a commercial pilot is a career.
better career planning and you wouldn’t be in the position you are in. Coming on here every day to hate on the company you work for and yet totally unwilling to leave. Blaming management at every turn yet never looking in the mirror.
You are not some inactive entity that can only be acted upon. Commercial pilots must be proactive and hyper aware of their careers. Just like you blame management for not foreseeing the spike in fuel or other macroeconomic trends resulting in the circumstances you are in now. A commercial pilot must also analyze the macroeconomics of the industry and economy at large.
Or, it’s all just dumb luck (probably more likely imo) which airlines succeed and which fail so blaming management for not running an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates is m utterly futile.
I don’t think the Herb, Kirby, or Crandall himself could turn F9 into an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates. The market has shifted way faster than anybody believed and Indigo lost their fastball. Wizz and frontier had down years.
it’s not helpful to blame management for failing to foresee the collapse of the ULCC domestic model when you had the biggest hiring opportunity in generations and you failed to capitalize on it. Blaming others instead of taking control of your career is childish.
better career planning and you wouldn’t be in the position you are in. Coming on here every day to hate on the company you work for and yet totally unwilling to leave. Blaming management at every turn yet never looking in the mirror.
You are not some inactive entity that can only be acted upon. Commercial pilots must be proactive and hyper aware of their careers. Just like you blame management for not foreseeing the spike in fuel or other macroeconomic trends resulting in the circumstances you are in now. A commercial pilot must also analyze the macroeconomics of the industry and economy at large.
Or, it’s all just dumb luck (probably more likely imo) which airlines succeed and which fail so blaming management for not running an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates is m utterly futile.
I don’t think the Herb, Kirby, or Crandall himself could turn F9 into an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates. The market has shifted way faster than anybody believed and Indigo lost their fastball. Wizz and frontier had down years.
it’s not helpful to blame management for failing to foresee the collapse of the ULCC domestic model when you had the biggest hiring opportunity in generations and you failed to capitalize on it. Blaming others instead of taking control of your career is childish.
It is managements job to ajust to new paradigms in the market. You can be like A and P grocery stores and have more locations than any competitor and stick to that model and not change and die, or adjust to create a supermarket and grow. If the ulcc model is not making profit and meeting the needs of customers, one can change models and adjust, or fade away. It is management's job to recognize what is and what is not working and adjust accordingly. It is labors job to follow thier plan, not come up with the plan.
03-10-2026 | 06:32 PM
#1182
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Flying planes is a job. Being a commercial pilot is a career.
better career planning and you wouldn’t be in the position you are in. Coming on here every day to hate on the company you work for and yet totally unwilling to leave. Blaming management at every turn yet never looking in the mirror.
You are not some inactive entity that can only be acted upon. Commercial pilots must be proactive and hyper aware of their careers. Just like you blame management for not foreseeing the spike in fuel or other macroeconomic trends resulting in the circumstances you are in now. A commercial pilot must also analyze the macroeconomics of the industry and economy at large.
Or, it’s all just dumb luck (probably more likely imo) which airlines succeed and which fail so blaming management for not running an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates is m utterly futile.
I don’t think the Herb, Kirby, or Crandall himself could turn F9 into an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates. The market has shifted way faster than anybody believed and Indigo lost their fastball. Wizz and frontier had down years.
it’s not helpful to blame management for failing to foresee the collapse of the ULCC domestic model when you had the biggest hiring opportunity in generations and you failed to capitalize on it. Blaming others instead of taking control of your career is childish.
better career planning and you wouldn’t be in the position you are in. Coming on here every day to hate on the company you work for and yet totally unwilling to leave. Blaming management at every turn yet never looking in the mirror.
You are not some inactive entity that can only be acted upon. Commercial pilots must be proactive and hyper aware of their careers. Just like you blame management for not foreseeing the spike in fuel or other macroeconomic trends resulting in the circumstances you are in now. A commercial pilot must also analyze the macroeconomics of the industry and economy at large.
Or, it’s all just dumb luck (probably more likely imo) which airlines succeed and which fail so blaming management for not running an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates is m utterly futile.
I don’t think the Herb, Kirby, or Crandall himself could turn F9 into an airline profitable enough to pay legacy rates. The market has shifted way faster than anybody believed and Indigo lost their fastball. Wizz and frontier had down years.
it’s not helpful to blame management for failing to foresee the collapse of the ULCC domestic model when you had the biggest hiring opportunity in generations and you failed to capitalize on it. Blaming others instead of taking control of your career is childish.
Second, and more importantly, look at the history of the airlines. Run that above rhetoric by an Eastern or Pan Am or even TWA, Us Air/America West pilot and you’re likely to get smacked. United is doing well RECENTLY, the merger with Continental saved them from putting thousands of workers (pilots, FAs and even more) on the street. Do you suppose when they were sucking, the pilots were thinking “maybe I shouldn’t complain about the bad decisions my company managers have made - I’ll just look in the mirror or study the obvious macroeconomic trends.” Is that what a 15 yr CA @ JB or any other pilot at a non successful airline right now should say? I’ll admit, being completely oblivious to current (and future) prognostications would be unwise but jumping ship after a few bad quarters is even more stupid.
The real sad part is, Im not really sure you realize how silly your last little diatribe was…
FYI - you gonna come on here and mgt troll, be better prepared.
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03-10-2026 | 08:17 PM
#1183
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First of all, you act like you’ve never heard of a seniority system.
Second, and more importantly, look at the history of the airlines. Run that above rhetoric by an Eastern or Pan Am or even TWA, Us Air/America West pilot and you’re likely to get smacked. United is doing well RECENTLY, the merger with Continental saved them from putting thousands of workers (pilots, FAs and even more) on the street. Do you suppose when they were sucking, the pilots were thinking “maybe I shouldn’t complain about the bad decisions my company managers have made - I’ll just look in the mirror or study the obvious macroeconomic trends.” Is that what a 15 yr CA @ JB or any other pilot at a non successful airline right now should say? I’ll admit, being completely oblivious to current (and future) prognostications would be unwise but jumping ship after a few bad quarters is even more stupid.
The real sad part is, Im not really sure you realize how silly your last little diatribe was…
FYI - you gonna come on here and mgt troll, be better prepared.
Second, and more importantly, look at the history of the airlines. Run that above rhetoric by an Eastern or Pan Am or even TWA, Us Air/America West pilot and you’re likely to get smacked. United is doing well RECENTLY, the merger with Continental saved them from putting thousands of workers (pilots, FAs and even more) on the street. Do you suppose when they were sucking, the pilots were thinking “maybe I shouldn’t complain about the bad decisions my company managers have made - I’ll just look in the mirror or study the obvious macroeconomic trends.” Is that what a 15 yr CA @ JB or any other pilot at a non successful airline right now should say? I’ll admit, being completely oblivious to current (and future) prognostications would be unwise but jumping ship after a few bad quarters is even more stupid.
The real sad part is, Im not really sure you realize how silly your last little diatribe was…
FYI - you gonna come on here and mgt troll, be better prepared.
You mentioning that United is doing well Recently reminded me of my uncle. He's been at United since the late 90s. We spoke recently about how well United is doing and he reminded me that it was terrible for about 25 years. Summer is 2000, then 9/11, bankruptcy, great recession, RJs stealing all the flying, Ted, etc.
25 years of it sucking but it's been great for the past 5!
He lived in Seattle his whole career. Said he wished he'd been at Alaska until the last 5 years of his 30 year career.
A little perspective is good sometimes
03-11-2026 | 05:37 AM
#1184
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From: Joystick Operator
Well said.
You mentioning that United is doing well Recently reminded me of my uncle. He's been at United since the late 90s. We spoke recently about how well United is doing and he reminded me that it was terrible for about 25 years. Summer is 2000, then 9/11, bankruptcy, great recession, RJs stealing all the flying, Ted, etc.
25 years of it sucking but it's been great for the past 5!
He lived in Seattle his whole career. Said he wished he'd been at Alaska until the last 5 years of his 30 year career.
A little perspective is good sometimes
You mentioning that United is doing well Recently reminded me of my uncle. He's been at United since the late 90s. We spoke recently about how well United is doing and he reminded me that it was terrible for about 25 years. Summer is 2000, then 9/11, bankruptcy, great recession, RJs stealing all the flying, Ted, etc.
25 years of it sucking but it's been great for the past 5!
He lived in Seattle his whole career. Said he wished he'd been at Alaska until the last 5 years of his 30 year career.
A little perspective is good sometimes
The biggest example is United doing well now, but also look at Delta. 15 years ago, those guys thought they were going lights out and US air almost took them over. 15. years. That is NOT a long time in their (still under) 100 year history.
Airlines are horrific investments and they rarely end up doing amazing forever and most have ups and downs. Some are just in their ups right now and some are in the downs due to COVID and their bets on what market demand would be brought back after it.
03-17-2026 | 06:16 AM
#1185
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03-17-2026 | 06:51 AM
#1186
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What I am actually interested in is the 2nd part of that article. Our RASM is projected to be up over 10% into the mid teens. Our YoY RASM going up higher than guidance is a very good sign and hopefully continues to trend up while we implement all of these new things and programs that JD is talking about.
03-17-2026 | 07:20 AM
#1187
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It sucks to see updated guidance, but it isn't TOO bad compared to the original guidance and it is to be expected due to this fuel increase.
What I am actually interested in is the 2nd part of that article. Our RASM is projected to be up over 10% into the mid teens. Our YoY RASM going up higher than guidance is a very good sign and hopefully continues to trend up while we implement all of these new things and programs that JD is talking about.
What I am actually interested in is the 2nd part of that article. Our RASM is projected to be up over 10% into the mid teens. Our YoY RASM going up higher than guidance is a very good sign and hopefully continues to trend up while we implement all of these new things and programs that JD is talking about.
03-17-2026 | 10:02 AM
#1188
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03-17-2026 | 10:37 AM
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