Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Frontier
How long for a contract? >

How long for a contract?

Search

Notices

How long for a contract?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-07-2025 | 07:24 AM
  #1411  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jan 2016
Posts: 491
Likes: 68
Default

Originally Posted by dracir1
That's not a plan - that's a hope.

A plan would be something like "We're going to tweak the network to more underserved markets for a period of time and see what that produces and what changes we see coming from the competition."

Or, "given our market prognosis for the next 6 to 9 months, we're looking into obtaining the aforementioned first class seating a little earlier (towards the summer) to capitalize on softening luxury demand by enticing traditional first/business class domestic travelers to give us a try."

Or, "we're adding wifi because it's SORELY needed and has been for a while"

Or maybe 50 other actual moves. Doing the same ULCC thing and expecting a different result may be lucrative (or it may not). But the one thing that we all know is that if you're not innovating, you're retrograding.
I guess you didn’t detect my sarcasm…I am losing my mojo.
Reply
Old 04-07-2025 | 07:25 AM
  #1412  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 95
From: Lineholder
Default

Originally Posted by CGLimits
I guess you didn’t detect my sarcasm…I am losing my mojo.
Oh wow - I totally did not. I am gettin older...
Reply
Old 05-12-2025 | 04:00 PM
  #1413  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2019
Posts: 494
Likes: 3
Default

Unfortunately, the union is not getting along now. Email just came out. Hopefully they can resolve it quickly.

In unity.
Reply
Old 05-12-2025 | 05:54 PM
  #1414  
Stirring the pot
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,608
Likes: 63
From: Off reserve 🤫
Default

Originally Posted by CGLimits
He was actually very clear…
We are going to thrive, because we have the lowest cost. He seems to be thrilled about the financial system collapse (which in itself is oddly weird). There is going to be a bloodbath amongst the big four. We are going to wish them luck.
That’s our long term plan.

bwahaaaaaaaaa……..
this place NEVER looks forward more than the next quarter…
Reply
Old 05-13-2025 | 08:11 AM
  #1415  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2018
Posts: 300
Likes: 3
Default

Originally Posted by HSCompressor
Unfortunately, the union is not getting along now. Email just came out. Hopefully they can resolve it quickly.

In unity.
it’s not that the union isn’t getting along. There are two loud mouth (ex) union people who are starting yet another ridiculous complaining session on FB. These two are some of several who don’t want to give up the old fapa den centric way of doing things. There have been many new people voted in that are bringing a new stronger mec. Not the good ole boy club of the fapa days. There have been some good changes. Not enough to be honest only because people like these two are obstructing
Reply
Old 05-13-2025 | 09:08 AM
  #1416  
Almost there
 
Joined: Apr 2021
Posts: 1,969
Likes: 109
Default

Originally Posted by Mooneyguy
it’s not that the union isn’t getting along. There are two loud mouth (ex) union people who are starting yet another ridiculous complaining session on FB. These two are some of several who don’t want to give up the old fapa den centric way of doing things. There have been many new people voted in that are bringing a new stronger mec. Not the good ole boy club of the fapa days. There have been some good changes. Not enough to be honest only because people like these two are obstructing
Thats not how the email reads nor the confirmation email from our union president.
Reply
Old 05-13-2025 | 11:11 AM
  #1417  
Windsor's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 431
Likes: 7
From: Zee Airboos
Default

Originally Posted by Stayontarget
Thats not how the email reads nor the confirmation email from our union president.
JL has to go. He's responsible for our current substandard contract (no voter here). It will be more of the same horrid language that the company will run freight trains through the loop holes. Non utilization of good sections of the contract because it says "at company's discretion" and plain old disregard for the contract. Anyone remember from the road shows how JL was touting how great our new and improved grievance process will be?? How'd that work out for us? 1000+ open grievances right now?
I voted no in 19 because i didn't think this contract was good enough. I've been proven correct. JL should not have been given another chance to negotiate for us. I do not condone the actions by the LEC reps who sent the email yesterday and i certainly dont condone the actions by MM. His video was a MM puff piece. He says "I" like he's a 5 star general running the union himself. The union is a "we" program. MM has shown he has no real leadership skills by letting the union operate in such a dysfunctional clown show. He needs to go as well.
Reply
Old 05-13-2025 | 11:48 AM
  #1418  
On Reserve
 
Joined: May 2024
Posts: 106
Likes: 1
Default

Someone smarter than me wanna give a little TLDR of this union drama? I have no idea what these emails are even referring to... What am i missing?
Reply
Old 05-13-2025 | 11:49 AM
  #1419  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Nov 2024
Posts: 425
Likes: 78
Default

Originally Posted by FreightBum
Someone smarter than me wanna give a little TLDR of this union drama? I have no idea what these emails are even referring to... What am i missing?
  • The dissenting reps are boycotting MEC meetings to prevent quorum, effectively halting further votes.
  • They claim the coalition is removing elected committee members and changing rules without proper process or justification.
  • It could potentially delay progress on critical contract negotiations or diminish the union’s ability to advocate effectively.



FYI. Haven’t read the email this morning
Reply
Old 05-13-2025 | 11:53 AM
  #1420  
On Reserve
 
Joined: May 2024
Posts: 106
Likes: 1
Default

Originally Posted by LinaPeru
  • The dissenting reps are boycotting MEC meetings to prevent quorum, effectively halting further votes.
  • They claim the coalition is removing elected committee members and changing rules without proper process or justification.
  • It could potentially delay progress on critical contract negotiations or diminish the union’s ability to advocate effectively.



FYI. Haven’t read the email this morning
Got it. Yea I think missing the one email from the boycotting reps was missing piece of the puzzle for me.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
White Cap
Cargo
49
09-26-2019 06:11 PM
CAL73CAPT
United
18
01-16-2011 07:46 AM
DMEarc
Regional
1249
12-17-2010 10:37 PM
ea500driver
Union Talk
26
06-26-2010 09:54 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices