Go Back  Airline Pilot Central Forums > Airline Pilot Forums > Major > Frontier
How long for a contract? >

How long for a contract?

Search

Notices

How long for a contract?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 04-01-2025 | 03:53 PM
  #1381  
FO For Life
 
Joined: Jan 2024
Posts: 327
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic........ F9/indigo will NEVER give up anything close to FULL BACK PAY

more than 5 years left?
GET OUT NOW!
You’re just stirring the pot.
Reply
Old 04-01-2025 | 03:59 PM
  #1382  
VisionWings's Avatar
A321
 
Joined: May 2019
Posts: 244
Likes: 35
Default

Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic........ F9/indigo will NEVER give up anything close to FULL BACK PAY

more than 5 years left?
GET OUT NOW!

indigo and Will Franke are both filed as Passive investors within the last 12 months.

will Franke is getting on in age too. He’s not likely to be a factor for very long. But we do need to vote better and be willing to vote no to a TA from BB.
Reply
Old 04-01-2025 | 04:25 PM
  #1383  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Mar 2021
Posts: 1,768
Likes: 28
Default

Originally Posted by spooldup
Looking forward to my 70k retro check and a new contract with QOL improvements and a snap up clause.

It takes time. But it will happen. Getting upset over it will only **** off you and your family since they have to deal with you every day.

Leave work at work and let stuff happen.
what factual information do you possess that points to any of these, much less all of them, actually occurring ?
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 10:28 AM
  #1384  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 95
From: Lineholder
Default

Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I was being EXTREMELY sarcastic........ F9/indigo will NEVER give up anything close to FULL BACK PAY

more than 5 years left?
GET OUT NOW!
I think a better attitude to have is that F9/Indigo will give up whatever it takes to keep the company running once we strike...
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 10:49 AM
  #1385  
madmax757's Avatar
Line Holder
 
Joined: Jun 2010
Posts: 1,222
Likes: 29
From: seated - facing forward
Default

Originally Posted by dracir1
I think a better attitude to have is that F9/Indigo will give up whatever it takes to keep the company running once we strike...
So are you saying we would be allowed to strike and see how many would cross the picket line like in the 80s with United and continental etc?

I personally think you will never see another pilot airline strike going forward.
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 10:50 AM
  #1386  
On Reserve
 
Joined: Nov 2023
Posts: 170
Likes: 29
Default

Originally Posted by dracir1
But it is the union's job to ensure the contract is enforced (and that the company is enforcing it).

To me, the whole bot issue is # 236 out of about 250 issues we have going on. I have no idea what the scheduling rep for the union does or has the ability to do, but there are MANY other scheduling issues I would prioritize higher than bot tracking.
I would like to point out that at first the bots diden't exist, then it wasen't really a problem, then (after it started crashing flica) the problem was addressed with a finger wagging memo, then threats with calls from the cheif pilot office. Perhaps eventually we will get to the point of actually doing something about the issue. The gas lighting on this has been just insane. The problem has not gone away because it's only a problem for the pilot group. Managment's happy and the union dosen't seem to care. They generally seem indiffrent to the issue. It has been a known issue for many years yet persistantly NOTHING HAPPENS funny.

This is a problem with cascading effects. it reduces the cost of filling trips by allowing a select few to pillage premium adds while the rest of are forced to work straght time for extra cash. It warps schedules, reserves, open time, possably even trip construction. It's also a very bad look for the Union (who gave this away in the last negotiation)who Is just to dam busy to have any kind of real solution. which is another reason the Pilot group is down on our Union. They can't fix the problems they created, and I don't even have the luxery of whineing about it to a person in real life. Yes we are all the Union thats why we all get to vote for the MEC...right (we don't)
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 11:21 AM
  #1387  
Line Holder
 
Joined: Feb 2014
Posts: 1,942
Likes: 95
From: Lineholder
Default

Originally Posted by madmax757
So are you saying we would be allowed to strike and see how many would cross the picket line like in the 80s with United and continental etc?

I personally think you will never see another pilot airline strike going forward.
I wonder that myself.

One thing seems certain - we are one of the smallest airlines that sells it's own tickets. If we aren't allowed to strike, then the RLA is useless (and perhaps will be the impetus for change).
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 12:16 PM
  #1388  
Stirring the pot
 
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,608
Likes: 63
From: Off reserve 🤫
Default

Originally Posted by dracir1
I think a better attitude to have is that F9/Indigo will give up whatever it takes to keep the company running once we strike...
don't see a strike ever happening.....
RLA construction..... presidential board
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 07:39 PM
  #1389  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Aug 2020
Posts: 2,649
Likes: 102
Default

Originally Posted by ReserveCA
don't see a strike ever happening.....
RLA construction..... presidential board
Granted, the RLA takes time to go through all of the motions, but do you honestly think that Frontier is a big enough fish in the pond to get a PEB (not meant as an insult, just as a percentage of the market)? I'd agree that the big three would get one minutes after being released into self help due to their size, but you guys are in a spot where if released, you stand really good a chance of no political interference. Use that to your advantage if the time comes. I hope you guys get a good contract without going that far, but it sounds unlikely at this point based on what I read on the interwebs.
Reply
Old 04-02-2025 | 08:32 PM
  #1390  
Gets Weekends Off
 
Joined: Nov 2012
Posts: 3,748
Likes: 98
From: 1900D CA
Default

Originally Posted by ReserveCA
don't see a strike ever happening.....
RLA construction..... presidential board
Trying to guess if the White House would intervene in a Frontier strike is impossible. My hunch is that they would and obviously side with management and not labor but who knows? Or perhaps they simply couldn't be bothered.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
White Cap
Cargo
49
09-26-2019 06:11 PM
CAL73CAPT
United
18
01-16-2011 07:46 AM
DMEarc
Regional
1249
12-17-2010 10:37 PM
ea500driver
Union Talk
26
06-26-2010 09:54 AM

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



Your Privacy Choices