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LFaber69 07-23-2025 06:45 PM


Originally Posted by Aero1900 (Post 3930682)
i disagree.

Frontier is currently sitting on almost $900 Million dollars of cash in the bank. We are almost certainly not going out of business.

We also are highly unlikely to "figure it out." We will continue to do what we've been doing. How the market changes will be the interesting thing to see. As the economy continues to evolve, inflation seems to remain stubborn, cost of living doesn't decrease, etc. Frontier will either have to move more upmarket or the market moves back to us. I don't know what happens but either the business will evolve or the market will devolve back to us.

And a few years ago, Spirit was sitting on just over 1B in cash in the bank. Not exactly the best metric to use in this case.

dracir1 07-23-2025 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by LFaber69 (Post 3931212)
And a few years ago, Spirit was sitting on just over 1B in cash in the bank. Not exactly the best metric to use in this case.

Of course, ANY airline that has 1/2 the fleet go unflyable all of the sudden will NEVER have enough cash...

LinaPeru 07-23-2025 06:58 PM


Originally Posted by LFaber69 (Post 3931212)
And a few years ago, Spirit was sitting on just over 1B in cash in the bank. Not exactly the best metric to use in this case.

It’s not like that 1B dollars just got up and walked away.

little bit more to that story don’t you think? I’ll let you explain it. I’ll help you tho.

Start with the COVID lockdowns in 2020 and go from there. Everyone will wait for your response.

LFaber69 07-23-2025 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by LinaPeru (Post 3931218)
It’s not like that 1B dollars just got up and walked away.

little bit more to that story don’t you think? I’ll let you explain it. I’ll help you tho.

Start with the COVID lockdowns in 2020 and go from there. Everyone will wait for your response.

Nothing to explain, don't look too deep into what I said. Other guy made a blanket statement, so did I.

XoXo

Noisecanceller 07-23-2025 09:37 PM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3931217)
Of course, ANY airline that has 1/2 the fleet go unflyable all of the sudden will NEVER have enough cash...


literally nothing to do with it.

LinaPeru 07-24-2025 09:05 AM


Originally Posted by LFaber69 (Post 3931231)
Nothing to explain, don't look too deep into what I said. Other guy made a blanket statement, so did I.

XoXo

yeah I get it. More empty comments from a brain dead poster. What would this website be without it? You’re not wrong.

xoxoxo sweetie. HMU

dracir1 07-24-2025 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3931236)
literally nothing to do with it.

No, not at all...

https://www.reuters.com/business/aer...eo-2023-08-03/

Planedrive 07-24-2025 02:32 PM

No more sunshades?

Without them, cockpit temperatures are likely to become dangerously high, especially during summer operations.

This change will almost certainly lead to increased APU usage and higher fuel costs. Additionally, in the event of an APU MEL, many aircraft may be unable to cool adequately using only ground air, potentially resulting in delays or cancellations.

We operate in a lot of in hot weather bases like LAS, PHX, MCO, and SJU.

Noisecanceller 07-24-2025 03:15 PM


Originally Posted by dracir1 (Post 3931412)

The business loses money on every seat mile flown currently. More miles more losses. Yes it would be more revenue but not enough to overcome the loses by operating them.

P&W pays the leases on those planes parked.

Ever notice Spirit is in no rush to get those engines turned around.

Stayontarget 07-24-2025 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by Noisecanceller (Post 3931446)
The business loses money on every seat mile flown currently. More miles more losses. Yes it would be more revenue but not enough to overcome the loses by operating them.

P&W pays the leases on those planes parked.

Ever notice Spirit is in no rush to get those engines turned around.

I had seen credits from P&W but I didn’t see comping the leases. Not in a position to look currently.


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