The big 3s basic economy is only propped up by their margins they have been making from the premium cabin sales.

The ULCC model isn't dead, the no customer service BS that came with it is dead.

If our on time performance was 80%+ with 99% completion and GOOD customer service, we would have no issues. But it inherently isn't good because the ULCC model requires contract everything and not caring about on time.

In the next 1-2 years we are either going under or we will figure it out. Those are the options

this post could be re-titled

"list the top 3 things we don't have"

False. Neither.

i disagree.

Frontier is currently sitting on almost $900 Million dollars of cash in the bank. We are almost certainly not going out of business.

We also are highly unlikely to "figure it out." We will continue to do what we've been doing. How the market changes will be the interesting thing to see. As the economy continues to evolve, inflation seems to remain stubborn, cost of living doesn't decrease, etc. Frontier will either have to move more upmarket or the market moves back to us. I don't know what happens but either the business will evolve or the market will devolve back to us.

Cost of living will hopefully not "decrease". You think inflation is painful, deflation is much more painful. What the economy needs is slow, steady, predictable inflation around 2% so it can grow and spread the wealth.

Thats a long winded way of saying add wifi and get our performance and customer service better and we will be perfect.

Nah the biggest unknown doesn’t even have to do with us. It’s with Spirit. I suspect there will be many unforeseen developments over the next two years.

Yeah, you're right. I didn't really mean decrease. Inflation has been brutal the last few years.

Yes. That's true.

I don't really see a path forward for them. But at the same time I don't know what happens if they run out of operating cash. Does a big airline come and scoop them up or are they left to die?