2Q 2025 Earnings Call - Aug 5
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With the order book being reaffirmed well into 2026 it’s highly unlikely. Even if we were to drop to 12.5 pilots per airplane we would be right sized by the end of the year with our current order book and no attrition. They will keep offering COLAS and eat the cost of whatever pilots don’t take them until attrition or growth right size us. Now if domestic demand falls further, and yields with it, then we will revisit the possibility. That was not at all what was said during the call though. They also extended more leases set to expire during 2026/2027 in the last three months according to the 10Q. They are never specific on how many though.
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Sort of. It’s more a question of how much flying can we squeeze out of every available asset on 4 particular days a week? T/W will see only 3-4 Block per plane so that’s going to bring the average across the fleet waaaay down. Enjoy your new days off on T/W everybody.
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Sort of. It’s more a question of how much flying can we squeeze out of every available asset on 4 particular days a week? T/W will see only 3-4 Block per plane so that’s going to bring the average across the fleet waaaay down. Enjoy your new days off on T/W everybody.
Enjoy only having weekends off if you are top 10-15 in base now.
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Yep... Didnt know this was allegiant. They have two hard days off basically, but you end up flying weekends to make up for those days. Its a shame. I wonder what the legacies load factor/yields are on Tues and Wed?
Enjoy only having weekends off if you are top 10-15 in base now.
Enjoy only having weekends off if you are top 10-15 in base now.
or do what AA does is make 5 flights then cancel the first one so the other 4 are more full.
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Stock continuing to drop today…3.18 a share and continuing drop. Investors still absorbing the news. The more they look into it… the more they hate it. BB getting upset at questions only biting him now.
Yep... Didnt know this was allegiant. They have two hard days off basically, but you end up flying weekends to make up for those days. Its a shame. I wonder what the legacies load factor/yields are on Tues and Wed?
Enjoy only having weekends off if you are top 10-15 in base now.
Enjoy only having weekends off if you are top 10-15 in base now.
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Seems fairly reasonable, if it works well. Would you agree?
Here’s the AI summary of the program:
Frontier Airlines offers "Disruption Assistance for Any Reason" as a way to manage flight disruptions
. This service provides passengers with the following benefits in cases of delays (2+ hours) or cancellations:
When I asked AI about average COST:
The cost of Frontier Airlines’ Disruption Assistance for Any Reason varies by flight. Based on available information, pricing typically ranges from $10 to $19 per flight. For example, a flight from Chicago O’Hare (ORD) to Boston (BOS) was quoted at $10, while a flight from New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) was quoted at $19. Since the cost depends on the specific route and booking, an average cost is roughly estimated to be around $15 per flight, though this can fluctuate. For precise pricing, check Frontier’s website during the booking process.
Here’s the AI summary of the program:
Frontier Airlines offers "Disruption Assistance for Any Reason" as a way to manage flight disruptions
. This service provides passengers with the following benefits in cases of delays (2+ hours) or cancellations:
- Rebooking on any airline: The passenger can rebook on any available airline to the same destination for the same or next day.
- 100% refund option: If the passenger prefers not to rebook, they can receive a full refund (excluding the cost of the Disruption Assistance) and keep their Frontier reservation.
- Automatic Notifications: Passengers receive automatic notifications regarding their flight disruptions.
- Self-service options: The service allows for real-time, self-service options for managing the disruption.
- Coverage starts 24 hours before departure, offering protection when it is most needed.
- This "Disruption Assistance for Any Reason" is a relatively new offering from Frontier Airlines, available since July 30, 2025.
- It's powered by Hopper Technology Solutions (HTS).
- This service is available exclusively when booking on FlyFrontier.com.
- Frontier Airlines tickets are generally non-refundable. However, refunds are available in specific circumstances, such as canceling within 24 hours of booking (for flights 7 days or more away) or for flights canceled or significantly delayed by Frontier.
- For questions or more detailed information about the Disruption Assistance, it's advisable to check the Frontier Airlines website or app, or contact their customer service.
When I asked AI about average COST:
The cost of Frontier Airlines’ Disruption Assistance for Any Reason varies by flight. Based on available information, pricing typically ranges from $10 to $19 per flight. For example, a flight from Chicago O’Hare (ORD) to Boston (BOS) was quoted at $10, while a flight from New York (JFK) to Los Angeles (LAX) was quoted at $19. Since the cost depends on the specific route and booking, an average cost is roughly estimated to be around $15 per flight, though this can fluctuate. For precise pricing, check Frontier’s website during the booking process.
On a very positive note, I jump seated to PHL from CLT last week that the GA, whose initials were TH, was an absolute example of customer service, politeness, and professionalism. Is there anyway to put in the good word for her? F9 needs to be rewarding her and those like her.
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yep. I don’t think anyone other airlines has mentioned much about next year except bb. So the analyst were like huh
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I bought SAVEQ when it went below $1.00. Just gotta be patient. They’ll turn it around over there.
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