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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36 (Post 1461263)

Go to a Legacy! LCCs aren't where you want to spend your career. F9 is a wild card.

It's a Wildcard no matter what, go to the first "major" that calls and figure it out then. The past 10+ years at a legacy, especially the one you work at hasn't been a walk in the park. You guys are set up to hopefully have a bright future but don't bet on someone being "set for life" just because they're at a legacy........

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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36 (Post 1461263)

Go to a Legacy! LCCs aren't where you want to spend your career. F9 is a wild card.

Really! My career (10+ years) at F9 have been much better than it would have been at most legacy carriers during the same time period. Who knows what the future holds at F9 or any company. Tell a Southwest pilot that LCCs are not where you want to hang your hat! This industry is a wild card.

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Originally Posted by RockyMntAV8R (Post 1461305)

Truth! And even though there is just starting to be movement right now, doesn't mean everyone will get on at a legacy. It's not as if we can all just apply, and poof, get hired at some of the most sought after companies in the entire industry!

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Originally Posted by toomanyrjs (Post 1461051)

Word on the street is that the IBT thugs are considering yet another lawsuit to try and force Frontier to fill all vacancies with RJ pukes from the invalidated IMSL.:confused:

Knowing that people like you exist in this industry makes me want to "Puke".
Let me guess......... Big mouth, small.......

Maybe I am just have no clue with the kind of people that I am dealing with. My experience has been that most guys hired at a legacy are seemingly more educated and far less ignorant than what I am hearing here. Has this past decade taught you nothing? The legacy guys I meet are humble and grateful for their positions and take nothing for granted. Just remember, there is something very appropriate lurking around the corner for guys like you...KARMA!!!

While i would not call them "pukes" I do agree that they do not deserve a spot at F9. F9 is a career airline unlike RAH. Getting hired at RAH requires a pulse, F9 is a different animal (see what i did there :) )

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Originally Posted by GAPILOT36 (Post 1461263)

Go to a Legacy! LCCs aren't where you want to spend your career. F9 is a wild card.

Some people do, and it is still much better than the regionals.

I saw this in another thread and is probably one of the best posts I have ever read, it's bares repeating here!

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Originally Posted by oldmako (Post 1406823)

A tad harsh perhaps? I remember flying with some of those 55 hanger-on losers with I was flying turbo-shakers. Turned out many of them were ex-EAL and PAA Captains who needed currency for an Ex-Pat job, medical coverage for a family member, or simply some income. They were great guys and I learned a lot from them. They got caught up in a vortex of miasma which they had nothing to do with. The same thing goes for the guys hired at UAL in 99 and up until the day our planes were hi-jacked.

This industry eats its young AND old. There is so much luck involved that anyone who thinks they can safely and deftly maneuver their way through a 30 year career is naive.

When I was young the top three carriers were EAL, PAA and TWA. UAL was small, as was DAL, Western, Republic and American. USAir was a jet national and SWA was a start up with a handful of beater guppies. They actually wanted you to get typed to apply. Who would volunteer for such insanity? :confused: Turns out the joke was on me. No one applied at EAL because of Lorenzo. Everyone knew the bomb was about to go off. Well, many of the guys who DID get hired there later got preferential treatment at UAL and other ALPA carriers. So much for my logic.

Branniff was cool as hell. Great paint, FA's slowly disrobing inflight, visionary upper management but horrible mid level execution. But, they were teetering and Crandall was scheming to kill them.

PDT was the a small gem but they and Empire were vacuumed up by USAIR who was PRINTING money at the time.

CAL (Peoples Express + New York Air + Original CAL + Scabs + who knows else) was a train wreck and only the insane applied there....or so I thought! Those insane guys (mid to late 80's) are now 777 Captains.

When I was furloughed I flew for a 121 Non-Sked / Sked operation. Yes we had some losers, but we had a bunch of GREAT guys who could fly the hell out of the plane who just got caught up in one failed airline after another. Before they knew it they were too old to get on with "A Major" or couldn't afford first year pay after all the setbacks and with kids in college.

The list of crapped out airlines since dereg is long. You see a 55 year old loser, I see a guy who needs a job. Perspective is a great filter.

Got an automated thank you, No thank you today. 5000TT. 4100 P121 turbofan. Bachelors. No arrest, no driving, nor FAA record. Hmm... Must be PIC time. They closed the vacancy very fast. Anyone else?

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Originally Posted by zoooropa (Post 1461259)

We now have pilots that have been on RSV for more than 5 years.

Or 7 years.