That's probably pretty accurate. I'd say the reason is 1) they can be. They have more than 5000 applications on file. 2) they are trying to preserve the culture. This airline has a great group of people, and they are trying hard to keep it that way. 3) they really want people who are going to stay and not jump ship to United

 

I agree with picking the best people for their airline who will fit in, but isn't this done to some degree at the start of the application process and job fairs? Also the 5000 applications on file are the same 5000 every airline has on file. I would like to think that my chances are better than 50% if called to an interview.

As far as people jumping ship to another airline that seems to be the problem many airlines except the big 3 are trying to solve. Increase 1st yr pay and it will help.

 

Your first paragraph you are dead WRONG! At a job fair or even application this individual who is applying may put on an act of sincerety and put one around a recruiter. The real test is getting around 9 interviewers and see if the candidate passes the sniff test. Maybe your chances are better than 50% depending on how confident you are? We can teach a Monkey to fly the Airbus. Most important is if you fit into our culture.

Second paragraph, if candidates are called to the Major three why would they not go? You are nuts if you do not entertain it especially being a new hire. I love my airline(not in its current state, management team blows!) but come on? Seriously going to stay put when its at least a million in total compensation difference we are talking about?

Now Hoover the question is are you good enough? If you think you are better than 50% then step up to the plate and take a shot at it! And if you have not been asked to interview then ask yourself why?

 

I guess my question would be, what is your culture?
From what I can glean from the post in order to fit in I have to want to work there, understand that people are not happy with their current state of management, also not be happy with current management, and put up a show that I have the job people want.
I completely agree that the interview is where most who have not been sincere will be found out and not offered the job I just thought that the recruitment process would weed out slightly more than it seems to have recently. I don't think this is a "dead WRONG" question.
I know the reason I haven't been asked to an interview. It's because I haven't applied yet. I would like to live in base, that being Denver, and frontier is one of three that can afford me that opportunity.
I do think frontier has a great group of people working there. Every time I JS I am treated well and can see the crews get along. To me that is more important than money, to a degree. I, like most, would like to see better pay and work rules and I hope that materializes soon. I think frontier is losing many "good fits" because of this.
I hope I have what it takes. I like to think I do, but no one knows till they tow the line.

 

I am a bit hesitant to try and explain what our culture is, but what the heck...

Considering that the vast majority of our pilots live in Colorado, I'll say one part of it is the Western/Colorado/mountain culture. That is to say, laid back, friendly and helpful. Perhaps a bit more laid back than people from the busy, crowded North East.

We have a pretty small percentage of ex military pilots here. Lots of our pilots are veterans of regional carriers and corporate gigs. Therefore we have less of the captain is God thing here. I think most of our pilots actually understand what CRM is.

Our pilots also take care of the entire crew. It's not like at United where half the pilots don't even say hi to the flight attendants. Being a smaller company also helps out with the more family feel. Most everyone knows everyone else and it makes working here very pleasant

 

That sounds just what I am looking for being a laid back man from the mountains myself. There truly is a difference between frontier and others.

 

Hoover, Your first failure in a pre-interview would be to say"I want to be based in CO" Frontier is no longer a Denver centric airline. They are growing everywhere but CO. Now if you are willing to be based wherever we have bases, that may land you an interview. As our Senior Denver FO's start upgrading then you may be based in CO.
Good luck with your choices.

 

Yo...Hoover, don't sweat some of the previous pedestal crap. I think Bolo is trying to make himself feel better about where he works with quotes like "Your first failure", "Are you willing to step up to the plate?", and "Are you good enough?" Seriously dude, It's not NASA. It's a National airline with a lot of potential and if nothing else a good stepping stone! Be pleasant, be yourself, and rehearse your "I'm never going to (insert Legacy) because this place is better for my QOL bullshi$...and you'll be fine. Frontier is a very nice place to work with great crews...but it's an Airbus, not an SR-71. Previous posts would like you to believe that they have performed at such a high level they've achieved something that the common man could not. Two months of training, studying, and dedication....that's what it takes. Good Luck!!

 

If saying I want to be based in DEN during the interview would hurt then that is good advice. To be honest I am only applying to airlines where I could eventually be based somewhere I want to live for the next 30 yrs. commuting is getting old, no one would disagree with that.
I'm pretty used to folks pumping up their airline on the forums. I have no problem with pilots being prideful in where they work.

 

Actually Carolina... Bolo wrote "We can teach a Monkey to fly the Airbus. Most important is if you fit into our culture." I think you may have misread him. Your references to NASA and SR-71's don't jive with monkeys - well wait monkeys did fly NASA rockets ... Anyway ... I took the spirit of his wording more to mean: 'Do you have the personality; the interpersonal skills?' 'Will you make a good fit?' 'Can you bring it on interview day?' 'Are you not a wierdo, prick, or DB?' Because even though you don't need Chuck Yeager's stick skills to fly for Frontier (as you and Bolo BOTH aptly point out), you do need to be as cool a dude, as nice a guy, and as fun to be stuck with as he is - if not as cool under pressure.