I do have a lot of time on my hands especially trying to explain things to DB'S like you! Why dont you send me a PM and tell me who you are not hide behind carolinaflyer. That would be beneficial. I am narrowing you down to CLT commuter. To say that I was insinuating you have to be a NASA pilot was idiotic at best when the previous post I said "a Monkey can fly the Airbus." I would love to school you. PM me. Don't be shy!

 

Cloud warrior,

You have just emphasized my point with your reply. My opinion had nothing to do with wanting to taxi the airplane, the questions was about ego's and CRM. I have no ego. UAL may have started CRM, but flying both sides of the equation I can attest that the military has it better, the airlines are still stuck in the old ranking structure.

While flying military contracting, I was very blessed to fly with some amazing former military aviators, we also flew per military rules. The point is that there was very little ego or ranking that went on. We worked together as crew always, there was no such thing as "CA typed / Left seat assigned / bid / Awarded a Left seat line, Pay, & schedule?" Whomever flew sat on left seat and did all the left seat duties and vice versa. Both crews were equally qualified on either station and duty, regardless who was the assigned PIC. PIC sign off was awarded with experience, not a number. a number means absolutely nothing regarding ability. In my opinion makes for a more capable crew.

 

LMAO. I have flown with some captains do the walk around and set the box when it is either their turn to fly or be a PM. I appreciate that as it keeps their skills sharp.

 

Actually yes, who wrote Vol I & II?

 

There are a lot of great CA at Frontier. Most are willing to share the logbook and some actually ask if you looked at it. CRM is definitely there, and guys are fun and easy to get along with.

That said, there is a group of "old school" "I am God" type CA's that seem to be prevelant in DEN. Some of these guys show up to the airplane and you'd think they had someone **** in the cheerios that morning and their wife left them right after. They are angry, miserable people to fly with. However, I imagine this group exists at any airline.

 

You did Not answer the question SIR. -Go back to Your Post.
I would love to meet you; would probably really surprise you.
So lets get back to what YOU said, about doing Captain flows, Vs First Officer flows, And Duties.
Are you a capt or fo.?
What are you Currently Paid to do?, What are you currently Qualifed to do. What does Your seniority hold?
Welcome to Civil Aviation 101 in the USA. We got ourselves Civilian FARS, NOT Military rules, Here at FRONTIER Airlines.
You seem to really like to talk about "the mission" like Every F9 flight is a COMBAT mission. We don't fly COMBAT if you want that -go back to the Militarty or private contractor gig. We fly Civillian passngers from point A to point B Safetly & effieciently.
You want to fly F9 (then lets FLY. Lets fly per the FOM, and the CBA. EVERY Single pilot that works here (F9) signed on to that. That IS the system, no surprises, no curve balls, pure FOM & CBA).
Have a nice day.

 

Could not agree with you more! DENpilot gets it.

 

My captain is better than your captain.

 

This thread just took a turn for the douche... You people should stop posting, you're embarassing yourselves and Frontier pilots. Grow up!

 

I like how cloud warrior said we get people from A to B "efficiently"... That made me chuckle