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08-22-2015 | 05:43 PM
#3341
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I'm going to have to disagree here. Coming to F9 from flying contract with the military, I can attest the biggest captain ego, lies at Frontier, specially the bunch that sat right seat for 1 day back in the 90s. Friendly no doubt, but def left seat mind set, far from how the military does it these days. UAL may have introduced CRM, but I honestly think the mil guys have fewer egos nowdays. Don't believe me, ask to taxi and do the left seat stuff when it's your turn to fly.
May I ask if you are CA typed / Left seat assigned / bid / Awarded a Left seat line, Pay, & schedule?
Get over Your Ego.
Just cause every CA out there don't let you taxi out,do Their flows, calls, etc, ect; doesn't mean they got EGO. It means they are Following the FOM, and performing their duties according to company & FAA policy.
Why don't you ask to do that the next time you fly with a Check Airman?
I'm sure they will hook you up.
Welcome to FRONTIER.
08-22-2015 | 05:44 PM
#3342
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From: CRJ-200 CA
Frontier still has the same number of airframes they did when they started hiring 2 years ago... Or it's close... They're still hiring for utilization so they haven't even begun to hire "the future captains"
08-23-2015 | 08:04 AM
#3344
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Well, not to burst your bubble, (and I'm not sure why the Frontier pilot thinks they are a better airline because they have few prior military), but even in the military we were taught that CRM was actually first implemented by UAL back after they crashed in Oregon while running out of gas fixing a gear bulb.
Pretty sure CRM was introduced at UAL back in the early 80's.
Sounds like you are referring to the military's use of human factors boards which hasn't reached airline use yet as far as I've been familiar with.
Hope you enjoy your career at Frontier, and maybe you can be the one to show the other Frontier pilots that it's OK to have prior military in your ranks.
Pretty sure CRM was introduced at UAL back in the early 80's.
Sounds like you are referring to the military's use of human factors boards which hasn't reached airline use yet as far as I've been familiar with.
Hope you enjoy your career at Frontier, and maybe you can be the one to show the other Frontier pilots that it's OK to have prior military in your ranks.
08-23-2015 | 08:25 AM
#3345
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From: A320 FO
I'm going to have to disagree here. Coming to F9 from flying contract with the military, I can attest the biggest captain ego, lies at Frontier, specially the bunch that sat right seat for 1 day back in the 90s. Friendly no doubt, but def left seat mind set, far from how the military does it these days. UAL may have introduced CRM, but I honestly think the mil guys have fewer egos nowdays. Don't believe me, ask to taxi and do the left seat stuff when it's your turn to fly.
08-23-2015 | 08:26 AM
#3346
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From: A320 FO
I'm going to have to disagree here. Coming to F9 from flying contract with the military, I can attest the biggest captain ego, lies at Frontier, specially the bunch that sat right seat for 1 day back in the 90s. Friendly no doubt, but def left seat mind set, far from how the military does it these days. UAL may have introduced CRM, but I honestly think the mil guys have fewer egos nowdays. Don't believe me, ask to taxi and do the left seat stuff when it's your turn to fly.
08-23-2015 | 08:55 AM
#3347
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I see you have a lot of spare time sir....maybe you could help me with my comprehension. 😀 Easy fella!!
08-23-2015 | 09:16 AM
#3348
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From: A319/A320/A321 CA
Wow, chill out fellas! We have a lot of new pilots on the list. The Captains at F9 are not prudes, they just don't fly with the same FOs very often; in those cases it is especially wise to fly by the book. Stick around for a bit and you'll probably find you can gain trust with this group, and if not you'll be the Captain soon anyway. It's all good...
08-23-2015 | 09:56 AM
#3349
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I'm going to have to disagree here. Coming to F9 from flying contract with the military, I can attest the biggest captain ego, lies at Frontier, specially the bunch that sat right seat for 1 day back in the 90s. Friendly no doubt, but def left seat mind set, far from how the military does it these days. UAL may have introduced CRM, but I honestly think the mil guys have fewer egos nowdays. Don't believe me, ask to taxi and do the left seat stuff when it's your turn to fly.
08-23-2015 | 11:49 AM
#3350
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Are you seriously pretending that F9 captains operate by strict adherence to the SOPs? Seriously? Lol
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