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Old 11-01-2015, 08:27 AM
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So, apparently 1 in 4 F9 pilots are okay with being the lowest paid Airbus operators in the world. Unreal.
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Old 11-01-2015, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot View Post
So, apparently 1 in 4 F9 pilots are okay with being the lowest paid Airbus operators in the world. Unreal.
The 1's are okay with others speaking for them.
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:30 AM
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I have a FLL job fair ticket for Nov 13 to talk with Frontier if anyone is looking for one. Take a number ticket in the top 50. PM if interested.
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot View Post
So, apparently 1 in 4 F9 pilots are okay with being the lowest paid Airbus operators in the world. Unreal.
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Old 11-01-2015, 09:38 AM
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I think he's referencing the amount of guys that didn't complete the FAPA survey regarding future contract talks.
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Old 11-01-2015, 11:50 AM
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Originally Posted by sled14 View Post
I think he's referencing the amount of guys that didn't complete the FAPA survey regarding future contract talks.
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This was a HUGE opportunity to stand united and show management that we are ready for contract negotiations. Instead, it seems many are happy/complacent/whatever with status quo; which is constant contract violations, pay cuts, and general disrespect from upper level management. FAPA literally had to beg, plead and send daily reminder emails to another 25% who waited til the last minute to complete it.
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Old 11-01-2015, 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot View Post
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This was a HUGE opportunity to stand united and show management that we are ready for contract negotiations. Instead, it seems many are happy/complacent/whatever with status quo; which is constant contract violations, pay cuts, and general disrespect from upper level management. FAPA literally had to beg, plead and send daily reminder emails to another 25% who waited til the last minute to complete it.
I am NOT defending those LazyA$$ed MoFo's for Not taking the survey, but Your numbers are simply one, (of many) ways to look at it.

Another way to view it is that we have had a participation rate of +82%.

I submit to you that 82% ain't 100%; But 82+% is a Majority. Yes i wish it was 100%; but 82+% will have to do for now.

It will grow... It IS Growing... for now those are the numbers.
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Old 11-02-2015, 03:17 AM
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Originally Posted by cloudwarrior View Post
I am NOT defending those LazyA$$ed MoFo's for Not taking the survey, but Your numbers are simply one, (of many) ways to look at it.

Another way to view it is that we have had a participation rate of +82%.

I submit to you that 82% ain't 100%; But 82+% is a Majority. Yes i wish it was 100%; but 82+% will have to do for now.

It will grow... It IS Growing... for now those are the numbers.
Thank you! I have to agree with you 100%. Any other airline with those #s for any Union issue would be fairly happy. Yes... I did the survey immediately when I saw it, but I am happy to see 82% for now. Solidarity is coming and it will continue to get better as time gets closer.
I guarantee (I hate to say it... But I will be a realist and not live in never land) that we won't see a 100% at any point. Granted, I do believe the # should be closer to 95 to 97 percent. We will see. It will take time, but everyone will be on board here soon... I believe.
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:03 PM
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Just a quick question, has Frontier now included a 500 PIC requirement for new hire FO applications. Cause I know over the past year, Frontier was desperately hiring FOs with 2500TT or above and PIC did not matter. But now I just filled out t heir application and noticed they are requiring a minimum of 500hrs PIC and thats the only i thing i dont have. And within half hour I got a Thanks But No Thanks from Frontier because the question where it asked if you have 500hrs PIC, I answered NO. All the other questions I answered yes and I met their req. So I am assuming now they want some PIC experience compared to none or low before.
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Old 11-02-2015, 02:10 PM
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Just a quick question, has Frontier now included a 500 PIC requirement for new hire FO applications. Cause I know over the past year, Frontier was desperately hiring FOs with 2500TT or above and PIC did not matter. But now I just filled out t heir application and noticed they are requiring a minimum of 500hrs PIC and thats the only i thing i dont have. And within half hour I got a Thanks But No Thanks from Frontier because the question where it asked if you have 500hrs PIC, I answered NO. All the other questions I answered yes and I met their req. So I am assuming now they want some PIC experience compared to none or low before.
The 500 hours PIC has been a hard minimum since they starting hiring two years ago. It does not need to be multi engine or turbine PIC, just regular old Cessna 172 pic will do
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