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Old 03-13-2016 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Revenge
Thanks for the info about your class. Any other info on breakdown of backgrounds in the class? Age, military, times, etc...Appears like they only hire a few out of each interview round.
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I was in a fall class, and there was no similarities in background. Military, Regional, Foriegn, 135, and Corporate.
As long as you meet the mins you are competetive. The only recurring theme is we all wanted to be there. Sell your personality in the interview and your chances are as good as anyone elses. They aren't hiring a logbook. Sorry if that's blunt but there was a few candidates that seemed to think they were well qualified for F9 and they didn't make it until the end of the day.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Yabadaba
I was in a fall class, and there was no similarities in background. Military, Regional, Foriegn, 135, and Corporate.
As long as you meet the mins you are competetive. The only recurring theme is we all wanted to be there. Sell your personality in the interview and your chances are as good as anyone elses. They aren't hiring a logbook. Sorry if that's blunt but there was a few candidates that seemed to think they were well qualified for F9 and they didn't make it until the end of the day.
I agree 100%. Sums up my class perfectly.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 07:56 PM
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Originally Posted by etflies
For a year, perhaps. Let's compare second year pay and beyond. How about long term stability? We just opened negotiations as well, and it can only improve from where we are now. Your comment is awful short sighted.
Well if people stopped applying to places with such crappy pay, that pay would go up. Wishful thinking.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by FireFlyChi
16 March, 16 April. Usual 24ish per month after that.
Thanks for the answer FireFlyChi.
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Old 03-13-2016 | 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Why do people even bother going there? can make more at some regionals these days and they pay for housing.
Really? That's funny, I thought $160/hr > $100/hr. My bad. Never mind the upward potential comparatively. 😜
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Old 03-13-2016 | 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Well if people stopped applying to places with such crappy pay, that pay would go up. Wishful thinking.
So you never flew for a regional, right? Because you would never contribute to the low paying regionals ($20-40/hr). And you never instructed for $15-20. If everyone just followed your lead and stopped applying at the regionals, their pay would be stupendous! Good man!
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Old 03-14-2016 | 03:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Xtreme87
Well if people stopped applying to places with such crappy pay, that pay would go up. Wishful thinking.
Frontier is beginning contact negotiations now. We are in need of a much improved contact, no doubt. People that are interested in coming here can see beyond today's pay. A career is a long time, a contract is not. We could have an industry average or better contract in 2 years, and couple that with rapid growth and you could find a really good job here. You have to try looking more than 1 foot ahead of yourself.

2 year upgrades are still very possible for new hires
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Old 03-14-2016 | 04:40 AM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
Frontier is beginning contact negotiations now. We are in need of a much improved contact, no doubt. People that are interested in coming here can see beyond today's pay. A career is a long time, a contract is not. We could have an industry average or better contract in 2 years, and couple that with rapid growth and you could find a really good job here. You have to try looking more than 1 foot ahead of yourself.

2 year upgrades are still very possible for new hires
Better than industry average contract in two years? Good luck with that. Some of you are really drinking the Kool-Aid.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 06:51 AM
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The only real career opportunity at Frontier is to be something other than a line pilot. Many pilots like 1900 have realized this and are pursuing a management position. The only way you get to any kind of a management position is to be a company cheerleader. You must carry the company water.

Some guy placed wooden coat hangars in the Airbus coat closets with "Thanks for a great 1st year" written in black Sharpie. I believe it was the same new hire who came in on a day off with a tube of Loctite to secure loose screws on our iPad mounts. Destined for management... The same new hire spent most of a 3 day trip trying to convince me the moisture raining down on the pilot group from management was, in fact, rain and not something else.

To say "a contract is not long term" is pure folly. I'm pretty sure most would agree that OUR contract IS long term. It just doesn't seem that way to 1900 because he's only been here 26 months.

To say that we may have an industry average contract in 2 years is pure folly. Nobody knows what will happen-and I'll admit that--but I fully expect our next contract will be TA'd at 11:59pm on day 30 of our cooling off period. Given the ridiculously long timeline established by the RLA bargaining process, this will take MANY years. Of course the alternative is that we could just be happy with a few minor tweaks to our existing piece of dung contract and we'll have bragging rights to achieving an agreement in sub-2-years.
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Old 03-14-2016 | 10:27 AM
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Very random question here, did anyone else get the email for the open house April 8th in MCO?

I'm not one by any means who goes to the job fairs (comic-cons), but I live in the area so it seems a worthy visit. Any intel on what goes down here? Also what proper attire would be?

Thanks
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