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12-30-2016, 05:56 PM

#6491

sab1250

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Position: Airbus CA

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The biggest reasons our costs are so much lower are our aircraft utilization (our planes fly 24/7), and aircraft configurations (319s seat 150, 320s seat 180, and 321s seat 230)...cheap employees are a VERY negligible cost. They can 100% afford to pay us $$$ and still turn extremely nice profits!

12-30-2016, 08:05 PM

#6492

SFA320

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Aero1900

You know that's not true, right? All of our operating costs are lower than the big 3. Pilot compensation is lower of course, but so is everything else. United CASM is 12 cents/ mile, ours is 6 or less. That's half the cost per seat mile. You think that's only pilot compensation?

Yes exactly, and as far as I understand pilot wages have a very little affect on CASM.

12-30-2016, 09:58 PM

#6493

Qotsaautopilot

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Originally Posted by Aero1900

Our union at spirit has said an industry leading pilot contract would not take CASM above 6 cents. We are around 5.5 now I believe. Pilots certainly move the needle being the highest paid labor group but in the overall cost of running the airline it's a drop in the bucket.

01-01-2017, 02:50 PM

#6494

chiefbrody

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Position: FO

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F9 Crew Base Assignment

When does F9 inform you of your base assignment after you've started training?
Does anyone know the base assignments for the last couple classes?

Thanks!

01-01-2017, 03:58 PM

#6495

Jcabesa

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefbrody

When does F9 inform you of your base assignment after you've started training?
Does anyone know the base assignments for the last couple classes?

Thanks!

I think you find out approx three weeks into training. DEN is most junior with a couple of the most senior guys in each class getting awarded MCO right out of the gate if they bid for it. ORD seems to take a few more months to hold.

01-01-2017, 04:02 PM

#6496

Xdashdriver

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Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefbrody

When does F9 inform you of your base assignment after you've started training?
Does anyone know the base assignments for the last couple classes?

Thanks!

For us it was around the 2nd or 3rd week of ground school we found out what our bases were. 18 DEN spots and 2 MCO. Several others got MCO on the next vacancy award.

01-01-2017, 04:30 PM

#6497

mxaexm

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Quote:

Originally Posted by Jcabesa

How many months does it take to hold ORD?

Not related question:
Where can I find more info regarding number of airplanes on order/deliveries etc?

01-01-2017, 04:42 PM

#6498

vze1e4f71

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Position: MD88 FO

Posts: 25

Quote:

Originally Posted by mxaexm

How many months does it take to hold ORD?

Not related question:
Where can I find more info regarding number of airplanes on order/deliveries etc?

I don't know of a website with good numbers, but whatever you find keep in mind that orders can be canceled and delayed at any time. New collective bargaining agreement? Cancel some orders. LOA 67 is actually honored? Cancel some orders. Orders can be used as a carrot, and any time something positive happens that carrot might be adjusted as "punishment".

What I do know is that they have lots of airplanes on order. I think in general the plan is to double in size in the next 5ish years. I don't have any sources to back that up, it's just what I've heard.

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01-01-2017, 04:50 PM

#6499

100LL

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Since when is Denver junior in the airline world? I always thought it was very senior.

01-01-2017, 04:56 PM

#6500

turbojet28

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Quote:

Originally Posted by mxaexm

How many months does it take to hold ORD?

Not related question:
Where can I find more info regarding number of airplanes on order/deliveries etc?

The way it is right at this moment, I would say about 4 months.

EDIT: If you want exact numbers, the latest vacancy to close gave the most junior ORD spot to an October 2016 hire, with an effective date of March 2017.