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Old 11-13-2016, 06:53 AM
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So a couple of quick questions. I have this interview coming up, everything on my record is almost spotless, current 121 crj900 FO, over 1500 multi time, over 3kTT, sim instructor, Eagle Scout, professor adjunct at a aviation university, recruiter with my current airline. My skeletons are a stop sign ticket that for some reasons comes up as a misdemeanor on my background check as a failure to obey a traffic Controll device, one checkride failure on the dash 8, and I had to resign from republic many years ago because I was just not ready to transition in to that big of jet being a low time steam gage pilot at the time. (Before the 1500hr rule). No Dui or any thing like that. ovisouly I am going to be very open with them about these matters but I am curious how bad are those things going to hurt me in an interview. Do I have a fighting chanch Or am I just fighting a loosing battle. Your advice and insite is greatly appreciated in advance.
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Old 11-13-2016, 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline View Post
So a couple of quick questions. I have this interview coming up, everything on my record is almost spotless, current 121 crj900 FO, over 1500 multi time, over 3kTT, sim instructor, Eagle Scout, professor adjunct at a aviation university, recruiter with my current airline. My skeletons are a stop sign ticket that for some reasons comes up as a misdemeanor on my background check as a failure to obey a traffic Controll device, one checkride failure on the dash 8, and I had to resign from republic many years ago because I was just not ready to transition in to that big of jet being a low time steam gage pilot at the time. (Before the 1500hr rule). No Dui or any thing like that. ovisouly I am going to be very open with them about these matters but I am curious how bad are those things going to hurt me in an interview. Do I have a fighting chanch Or am I just fighting a loosing battle. Your advice and insite is greatly appreciated in advance.
They aren't going to hurt you at all. As long as you don't try to hide anything- that's what worries employers more. Almost everyone has received a ticket, or failed a ck ride/training event. It shaped you into the person you are today, and you learned from it as well.
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Old 11-13-2016, 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline View Post
So a couple of quick questions. I have this interview coming up, everything on my record is almost spotless, current 121 crj900 FO, over 1500 multi time, over 3kTT, sim instructor, Eagle Scout, professor adjunct at a aviation university, recruiter with my current airline. My skeletons are a stop sign ticket that for some reasons comes up as a misdemeanor on my background check as a failure to obey a traffic Controll device, one checkride failure on the dash 8, and I had to resign from republic many years ago because I was just not ready to transition in to that big of jet being a low time steam gage pilot at the time. (Before the 1500hr rule). No Dui or any thing like that. ovisouly I am going to be very open with them about these matters but I am curious how bad are those things going to hurt me in an interview. Do I have a fighting chanch Or am I just fighting a loosing battle. Your advice and insite is greatly appreciated in advance.
If you get the interview you have the same odds as anyone else. As long as you are completely honest about everything, there shouldn't be an issue. Explain what happened in a factual manner (do not try and point fingers at others) and explain what you learned and how you grew as a result.

Theoretically you shouldn't have an issue, I'm not sure what happened with the job offers being pulled so I can't comment on that.
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Old 11-13-2016, 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline View Post
I have an interview coming up with F9 in December. This has me worried. I get if it's one person in the class but 7. I am really excited for the interview and the possibility of working for them but now a little worried.

Although I do not agree with the $24,000 training contract and some other practices of the hiring process, Frontier will not rescind a job offer unless something shows up that was not disclosed! I would assume standard protocal would be: "we would like to offer you a First Officer position at F9 as long as your background check is ok."

Let me be clear here. You are being interviewed from the time you step on an F9 flight until you are done with the interview and returning home on an F9 flight. Gate Agents, FA's etc. are watching you and if you are arrogant or an ass then guess what, you might not get the job because of your behavior. It is common sense. Mind your P's and Q's and be honest with them.
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Old 11-13-2016, 08:11 AM
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Until someone can provide proof that 6 or 7 people had their job offers taken away just days before class, I refuse to belive it. It simply makes no sense and i don't believe that's true. Between rumors, outright lies and the fact people say anything on an anonymous forum. I call BS

Now, more constructively: if you get invited to an interview, you have as good a chance of getting hired as everyone else. If you have any check ride failures or anything else, simply own up to it. Don't hide it and don't make excuses. When they ask about them, they are asking to see how you answer the question. They want to see you be mature and take responsibility. No excuses and no ego... you won't have any problems.

Remember, if they invite you to an interview, they will obviously consider hiring you.
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Old 11-13-2016, 08:20 AM
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Exactly. I would also disclose training fails that do not show up on the PRIA. If you received a W-2, you worked somewhere, even if you "resigned".
I have had one checkride bust in my life, 8 years ago. We discussed it during the interview. No other fails. I resigned during training from a regional 11 years ago - moving from CFI'ing into a jet was a huge jump for me, and I just wasn't up to it at the time. That was also discussed during the interview. I really don't think those things were any issue, as I admitting to them, and told them what I learned from those mistakes. I have no traffic tickets in the past 2 decades, and never any DUI's or arrests.

I don't have any confirmation about the six others, that's just what I was told by a classmate. I can only speak about myself for sure.

I'm really not trying to bash Frontier, or scare anyone away. I'm just sharing my own experience. I'm hoping just maybe I can figure out something I can do different/better on my next big interview.

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Old 11-13-2016, 09:53 AM
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When a job offer is rescinded I think it would be fair to expect them to tell you why? They obviously feel they have a good enough reason. Now if 6-7 others in your group got the same notice, then it's a bit murky. I can't imagine that happening unless there was some major observation made (cooperating during testing as an example).
Remember there are cameras everywhere these days.

For anyone who is interviewing, the key point is to be yourself and be honest about your past. Sometimes, we fret about things that seem like a huge burden, only to find out when we get older that they were not as important at all.

Not everyone has a perfect record. In your career, there will be ups and downs. Someday, you may have a bad day in the simulator, on the line or an examiner who gives you a pink slip. It happens. Disclose it and let the airline make the decision on hiring you. It is much better not to get hired than to be fat dumb and happy in class or on the line and get yanked.
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Old 11-13-2016, 01:13 PM
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Drug screens take 1-2 days... how long were you in Colorado? Could have been the hiccup and aren't without error.
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Old 11-13-2016, 01:14 PM
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Would it be that bad to call and get clarification? I think I would if no explanation was given.
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Old 11-13-2016, 01:59 PM
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Would it be that bad to call and get clarification? I think I would if no explanation was given.
I would absolutely call. Maybe there is a mistake in your pria that you really really need to know about!
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