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Old 11-12-2016 | 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by singlepilot
Looks like you are coming from Silver.. I agree with the others something is not adding up here. Our management is pretty slimy, but I'm pretty sure they would not go that far.
Well, regardless of whether MichiganFlyer is an ax murderer (which I would bet he/she is not) or sings in the church choir, there is NEVER an excuse for rescinding an offer in that short of time w/o some sort of explanation. Even something as generic as "we're experiencing a miscalculation in training slots" or "we found something in your background that wasn't to our liking" or whatever is absolutely necessary. I have no idea what the whole story is but there's gotta be a better way to inform people of a change other than - "sorry" w/o explanation.

Not providing even the most basic of reasons is extremely unprofessional.
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Old 11-12-2016 | 11:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Oooo
Wasn't very smart of you to have your 2 weeks notice up before even starting class.
Seriously Oooo? S T F Up. The vast majority of pilots routinely give 2 weeks notice before quitting a job. It's industry standard and the right (professional/responsible/courteous, etc.) thing to do.

If a job offer from Frontier now requires that a pilot set aside courtesy and professionalism, then the problem lies not with the pilot, but squarely with Frontier.

I know at least a couple of our union reps monitor this forum. I'd love to hear more about this situation if any of you all have a chance to broach the subject with management. Send me an email, PM, or call me. If nothing else, I'll ask about it the next time one of our chief pilots calls me because he's butt hurt over something I've done or failed to do. Shouldn't be long if past performance is any indicator...

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Old 11-13-2016 | 03:19 AM
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Originally Posted by OpenClimb
Seriously Oooo? S T F Up. The vast majority of pilots routinely give 2 weeks notice before quitting a job. It's industry standard and the right (professional/responsible/courteous, etc.) thing to do.

If a job offer from Frontier now requires that a pilot set aside courtesy and professionalism, then the problem lies not with the pilot, but squarely with Frontier.

I know at least a couple of our union reps monitor this forum. I'd love to hear more about this situation if any of you all have a chance to broach the subject with management. Send me an email, PM, or call me. If nothing else, I'll ask about it the next time one of our chief pilots calls me because he's butt hurt over something I've done or failed to do. Shouldn't be long if past performance is any indicator...

Thank you Climb. Please let me know if you happen to learn anything.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 03:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MichiganFlyer
I'm sure there is some reason, but I really don't know what it is.
I would start by checking your pria report. The day you were hired you filled out paperwork. If you indicated you wanted to get a copy you should get one in the mail soon. Look over all of that carefully. Good luck.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by wt932051
I would start by checking your pria report. The day you were hired you filled out paperwork. If you indicated you wanted to get a copy you should get one in the mail soon. Look over all of that carefully. Good luck.
Exactly. I would also disclose training fails that do not show up on the PRIA. If you received a W-2, you worked somewhere, even if you "resigned".
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Old 11-13-2016 | 06:30 AM
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I have an interview coming up with F9 in December. This has me worried. I get if it's one person in the class but 7. I am really excited for the interview and the possibility of working for them but now a little worried.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 06:53 AM
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So a couple of quick questions. I have this interview coming up, everything on my record is almost spotless, current 121 crj900 FO, over 1500 multi time, over 3kTT, sim instructor, Eagle Scout, professor adjunct at a aviation university, recruiter with my current airline. My skeletons are a stop sign ticket that for some reasons comes up as a misdemeanor on my background check as a failure to obey a traffic Controll device, one checkride failure on the dash 8, and I had to resign from republic many years ago because I was just not ready to transition in to that big of jet being a low time steam gage pilot at the time. (Before the 1500hr rule). No Dui or any thing like that. ovisouly I am going to be very open with them about these matters but I am curious how bad are those things going to hurt me in an interview. Do I have a fighting chanch Or am I just fighting a loosing battle. Your advice and insite is greatly appreciated in advance.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 07:31 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
So a couple of quick questions. I have this interview coming up, everything on my record is almost spotless, current 121 crj900 FO, over 1500 multi time, over 3kTT, sim instructor, Eagle Scout, professor adjunct at a aviation university, recruiter with my current airline. My skeletons are a stop sign ticket that for some reasons comes up as a misdemeanor on my background check as a failure to obey a traffic Controll device, one checkride failure on the dash 8, and I had to resign from republic many years ago because I was just not ready to transition in to that big of jet being a low time steam gage pilot at the time. (Before the 1500hr rule). No Dui or any thing like that. ovisouly I am going to be very open with them about these matters but I am curious how bad are those things going to hurt me in an interview. Do I have a fighting chanch Or am I just fighting a loosing battle. Your advice and insite is greatly appreciated in advance.
They aren't going to hurt you at all. As long as you don't try to hide anything- that's what worries employers more. Almost everyone has received a ticket, or failed a ck ride/training event. It shaped you into the person you are today, and you learned from it as well.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 07:36 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
So a couple of quick questions. I have this interview coming up, everything on my record is almost spotless, current 121 crj900 FO, over 1500 multi time, over 3kTT, sim instructor, Eagle Scout, professor adjunct at a aviation university, recruiter with my current airline. My skeletons are a stop sign ticket that for some reasons comes up as a misdemeanor on my background check as a failure to obey a traffic Controll device, one checkride failure on the dash 8, and I had to resign from republic many years ago because I was just not ready to transition in to that big of jet being a low time steam gage pilot at the time. (Before the 1500hr rule). No Dui or any thing like that. ovisouly I am going to be very open with them about these matters but I am curious how bad are those things going to hurt me in an interview. Do I have a fighting chanch Or am I just fighting a loosing battle. Your advice and insite is greatly appreciated in advance.
If you get the interview you have the same odds as anyone else. As long as you are completely honest about everything, there shouldn't be an issue. Explain what happened in a factual manner (do not try and point fingers at others) and explain what you learned and how you grew as a result.

Theoretically you shouldn't have an issue, I'm not sure what happened with the job offers being pulled so I can't comment on that.
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Old 11-13-2016 | 08:03 AM
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Originally Posted by milehighskyline
I have an interview coming up with F9 in December. This has me worried. I get if it's one person in the class but 7. I am really excited for the interview and the possibility of working for them but now a little worried.

Although I do not agree with the $24,000 training contract and some other practices of the hiring process, Frontier will not rescind a job offer unless something shows up that was not disclosed! I would assume standard protocal would be: "we would like to offer you a First Officer position at F9 as long as your background check is ok."

Let me be clear here. You are being interviewed from the time you step on an F9 flight until you are done with the interview and returning home on an F9 flight. Gate Agents, FA's etc. are watching you and if you are arrogant or an ass then guess what, you might not get the job because of your behavior. It is common sense. Mind your P's and Q's and be honest with them.
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