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Old 03-21-2017 | 01:57 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
I think Vegas as a recent article said Frontier will have more weekly departures than Spirit by July 2017. Spirit has about 100 pilot crews based in LAS.
I knew it was a busy place for us, but I had no idea it was that busy. Seems like that would make the most sense then. I know a lot of folks that are hoping for another western domicile sooner rather than later.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 02:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
And the militant Spirit guys are so effective NOBODY from management showed up to the scheduled negotiating session this week. Mediator and pilots, that's all.

We have a union for a reason. Follow their instructions.
That isn't even kind of true.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ovrtake92
That isn't even kind of true.
Right, so give everyone the update. There has been updates.
The no show on day one and half of day two was preplanned.
The rest is true.
Being a militant group hasn't moved your CBA process along one hour further than where it's at now.
Anything done different out of whatever the "norm" was before negotiations began jeopardizes your groups position.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 03:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Trowserchilli
Right, so give everyone the update. There has been updates.
The no show on day one and half of day two was preplanned.
The rest is true.
Being a militant group hasn't moved your CBA process along one hour further than where it's at now.
Anything done different out of whatever the "norm" was before negotiations began jeopardizes your groups position.
We TAd two significant items and gave the company our monetary proposal. The no show was a mix of rumor and half truth. Bendo was in and out and he isn't even required to be there. I don't think youll see us really cranky until next month when they offer what is assumed to be a low ball package. Anyway the rumors of the company no showing where greatly exaggerated.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 05:08 PM
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Is there any way to look at a Denver bid pack? I'm trying to do a comp for QOL vs $$$.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 05:19 PM
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Originally Posted by evrbodysmugglin
Is there any way to look at a Denver bid pack? I'm trying to do a comp for QOL vs $$$.
usually they get emailed to you, and if you dont have email on file they get sent to comply (all 3 bases)
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Old 03-21-2017 | 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by ULLI
usually they get emailed to you, and if you dont have email on file they get sent to comply (all 3 bases)
I don't work there yet. Interviewing soon. Making a tough choice between shorter commute or more money to stay put. Even a breakdown of percent up the list to hold days off like 15-17 if that's possible. Also average line credits. I know it is a lot to ask. I understand if it's a PITA.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 06:30 PM
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Denver: April Bid: Avg. line credit 76:35, Avg. Days off 15.1, Block/Duty 5:09, 14.2% 1 day trips, 9.4% 2 day, 25.6% 3 day, 50.8% 4 day. I do not have access to the Denver awards sorted nicely in seniority order so someone else will have to help you with what % up the list to hold a 15 day off line.
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Old 03-21-2017 | 06:36 PM
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Originally Posted by evrbodysmugglin
I don't work there yet. Interviewing soon. Making a tough choice between shorter commute or more money to stay put. Even a breakdown of percent up the list to hold days off like 15-17 if that's possible. Also average line credits. I know it is a lot to ask. I understand if it's a PITA.
My bad, i thought you were here.
DEN 76.35 credit hours, 15.1 days off, 283 FOs, 193 lines +41 relief (relief has same benefits for the most part as having a line)
CHI 76.39CR, 15.1 days off, 102 FOs, 64 lines+13 relief lines
MCO 76.46 Credit Hours 15.4 days off 104 FOs, 70 lines plus 10+lines
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Old 03-21-2017 | 06:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Aero1900
I am very happy that I voted ALPA. As frustrating as negotiations are, I think we are playing our cards correctly
Me too. I was pretty anti-ALPA 18 months ago, but voted yes, and haven't regretted it for a second.
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