Does anyone really think mgt cares about what lanyards we are wearing? If so we would have had a contract by now if mgt was concerned about everyone wearing orange lanyards.

They can't see over all the cash rolling in anyway to see what we are wearing!!

 

I just like them because at least some of our gate agents pick up I’m a pilot when I’m listing for the jumpseat instead of trying to always stick me in the galley.

 

Is that all it took - the new year rolling through?

You say your unity hasn't subsided but you're not going to wear the lanyard? I would conclude that your unity HAS subsided just by opting not to do so anymore. We're not even close to any sort of agreement or cooling off period or whatever and already you have waned from following instructions.

The union, YOUR union has asked you to wear the lanyard. They didn't tell you to wear it until the new year or until they got new ones or until you felt like it. They asked you to wear it until you got a contract (or they tell you otherwise). Of course, no one can make you but if all mgt has to do to get you to not follow directions from your union is to take longer than you're willing to wait, this will be a much easier battle for them to win.

I mean - we're talking about a simple instruction from your Union to wear a simple lanyard.

It's amazing how little resolve some of us pilots show yet are the very ones who complain about change not coming quick enough...smh

 

Ok, I'm not sure if you can tell, but I'm ex-military. My above post was my attempt at being politically correct and not wanting to hurt anyone's feelings.

Below is what I really wanted to message to you:

Listen, you lil whiny-a$$ BEOTCH! It's not that f&*king difficult. You're a pilot, or so I'm told, so you KNOW how to follow directions. I'm gonna give this to you once more since you've already been told but apparently either aren't smart enough to comprehend or are just too dayum stubborn to realize you're a part of something bigger than your own simple reality here...PUT THE DAYUM LANYARD ON and KEEP IT ON. I don't care if it's red, green, blue and half of it is orange and pick checkered with Christmas lights on it and is outdated. WEAR IT. Because people greater than yourself have told you to. Wear it everywhere. Where it to work. Wear it at the grocery store. Wear it to the movies, to bed, when you make love to your wife. WEAR THE DAYUM THING. I do. My wife loves it...

Now, if I see you without it on, I will take a bag of lanyards and cram them where the sun don't shine. You feel me DAWG?

So go find it, dust it off, report to work and shut the F^&k up!

Gary, I hope you know, this is a joke...this thread could use some levity

 

Is $39 correct for starting pay? That's like $2000 a month take home.

 

Wow if this whole flying thing doesn’t work out you could be a financial planner. Thanks for the useful info.

 

It might "joke" but dang man, you're really into lanyards. If the union instructs us to turn the 7 into an 8, and next year and 9 and so on...I'll put it back on. But right now the current one says Contract 2017. That didn't happen, I'm not whining...its simply a fact. Our union workers and negotiating committee are working hard for all of us and from the strike vote to the picketing it is clear we are a unified group that fully supports them. I'm also sure that our union probably already has new lanyards on the way. I don't think "contract 2017" sends the right message any longer based on series of events throughout last year. Send me a 100% ready to strike lanyard, leave your 2017 ones back in 2017, otherwise they resemble defeat, and we are anything but defeated.

Below is what I really wanted to message you:

Eat a dick

Jk.

 

With all the I’s and me’s in that reply the message to the pilot group is loud and clear.

 

Touche'.

To your point, I can't stand lanyards and never used one until the union sent me the orange one and told me to wear and why. So I do. I don't really think it's the writing on it that's important but the color - supposedly they want any pilot group in negotiations to wear orange (I think I heard that somewhere). Plus, as mentioned before, since 2017 is over, it shows that our contract is overdue - not that we're defeated. I'm not really sure how you come to that conclusion as it's a negotiation...since it didn't happen in 2017 like the lanyard states that means it's not gonna happen ever? Defeat, to me, is not wearing the lanyard at all. You're just one more person who isn't "showing" solidarity (despite how much you say you're down for the cause). Plus, I'd rather have the union spend my dues on getting me a new contract instead of another 1200 or so lanyards.

Just difference of opinion. Either way, we're both in the same boat and on the same team.

 

The lanyards are a symbol. Anyone simple enough to get wrapped around the axle about what's written on them, simply doesn't get it. I love seeing these fukktards walking around not even wearing one. "It's too tight, I don't like Orange-it makes me look fat, my kid gave me this Star Wars lanyard, I like to show my support for the Cleveland Browns or Denver Mules, I'm an A-350 fan" and on and on.

There's always going to be a contention of people that don't get it. Unfortunately at Frontier, we seem to have more than our fair share of them. Give these people sh!t when you see them. 98% of us don't volunteer to help the cause, at least we can wear a lanyard showing support for the 2% that do.