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#8561
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#8564
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From: A320 FO
Employees at the GO temporarily worked ramp while we transitioned to a new ground handing team. Barry, Meehan and a few other big names were among them. I never once saw a pilot doing so and if they did it was completely voluntary.
#8565
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Don’t you think that this statement of yours is way overblown? Yes, some employees were asked at the GO. Now “All employees,”. Absolutely not! Get your facts straight before you spew out BS for effect!
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I guess the news covering this was overblown too?
My point to the person asking was that employees were "asked' to work the ramp and assist in the transition to the new vendor due to usual poor execution. And big bonuses were still happening. And y'all want to dismiss this as normal in a switching vendors? Really? And later that year was the Dec meltdown. I guess that was overblown too.
Please Bolo..tell me you're not starting to sip the koolaid??
My point to the person asking was that employees were "asked' to work the ramp and assist in the transition to the new vendor due to usual poor execution. And big bonuses were still happening. And y'all want to dismiss this as normal in a switching vendors? Really? And later that year was the Dec meltdown. I guess that was overblown too.
Please Bolo..tell me you're not starting to sip the koolaid??
#8568
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From: A320 Captain
I agree with the poor execution part! Not disputing that at all. And it was a joke for the Company to ask any employees help that were non-rampers. But for you to state “All employees” was not true! Calling a spade a spade here. Nothing more nothing less!
As for Koolaid drinker, I love Cherry flavor!
As for Koolaid drinker, I love Cherry flavor!
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From: A320 CA
I sat in a ground school several years ago when Barry The Biffster personally bestowed upon us his significant presence.
One of the questions from the pilot peanut gallery concerned an alarming rate of attrition among newhire flight attendants. I don’t remember the actual number, but let’s assume it was 25% within the first year of employment.
The pilot asked if this was true. The Barry confirmed that it was, in fact, true, but offered no further explanation or commentary. The inquisitive pilot asked a follow on question... “Is this acceptable to the Company and, if not, what are you doing about it?”
The Barry said that they were conducting more rigorous screening of new flight attendant applicants so that the applicants would be better aware of what they’re signing up for.
The pilot asked another question: “Have you considered treating them like human beings and paying them a livable wage?” The Barry responded by suggesting that maybe the Pilot should be part of the ongoing attrition.
The pilot was forced to resign a few months prior to the standard age 65 retirement date. Barry got his wish.
I share this story to (1) show the caliber of leadership here at Frontier, and (2) to suggest that the ALPA website describing working conditions at Frontier REALLY IS intended to help the Company make applicants aware of the sheetstorm they’re stepping into by applying at Frontier. Just being helpful, we are.
One of the questions from the pilot peanut gallery concerned an alarming rate of attrition among newhire flight attendants. I don’t remember the actual number, but let’s assume it was 25% within the first year of employment.
The pilot asked if this was true. The Barry confirmed that it was, in fact, true, but offered no further explanation or commentary. The inquisitive pilot asked a follow on question... “Is this acceptable to the Company and, if not, what are you doing about it?”
The Barry said that they were conducting more rigorous screening of new flight attendant applicants so that the applicants would be better aware of what they’re signing up for.
The pilot asked another question: “Have you considered treating them like human beings and paying them a livable wage?” The Barry responded by suggesting that maybe the Pilot should be part of the ongoing attrition.
The pilot was forced to resign a few months prior to the standard age 65 retirement date. Barry got his wish.
I share this story to (1) show the caliber of leadership here at Frontier, and (2) to suggest that the ALPA website describing working conditions at Frontier REALLY IS intended to help the Company make applicants aware of the sheetstorm they’re stepping into by applying at Frontier. Just being helpful, we are.
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