Frontier Hiring.
04-20-2018, 05:20 AM
#8562
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Nov 2010
Position: A320 Captain
Posts: 641
I agree with the poor execution part! Not disputing that at all. And it was a joke for the Company to ask any employees help that were non-rampers. But for you to state “All employees” was not true! Calling a spade a spade here. Nothing more nothing less!
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As for Koolaid drinker, I love Cherry flavor!
04-20-2018, 05:13 PM
#8564
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Jun 2014
Position: A320 CA
Posts: 491
I sat in a ground school several years ago when Barry The Biffster personally bestowed upon us his significant presence.
One of the questions from the pilot peanut gallery concerned an alarming rate of attrition among newhire flight attendants. I don’t remember the actual number, but let’s assume it was 25% within the first year of employment.
The pilot asked if this was true. The Barry confirmed that it was, in fact, true, but offered no further explanation or commentary. The inquisitive pilot asked a follow on question... “Is this acceptable to the Company and, if not, what are you doing about it?”
The Barry said that they were conducting more rigorous screening of new flight attendant applicants so that the applicants would be better aware of what they’re signing up for.
The pilot asked another question: “Have you considered treating them like human beings and paying them a livable wage?” The Barry responded by suggesting that maybe the Pilot should be part of the ongoing attrition.
The pilot was forced to resign a few months prior to the standard age 65 retirement date. Barry got his wish.
I share this story to (1) show the caliber of leadership here at Frontier, and (2) to suggest that the ALPA website describing working conditions at Frontier REALLY IS intended to help the Company make applicants aware of the sheetstorm they’re stepping into by applying at Frontier. Just being helpful, we are.
One of the questions from the pilot peanut gallery concerned an alarming rate of attrition among newhire flight attendants. I don’t remember the actual number, but let’s assume it was 25% within the first year of employment.
The pilot asked if this was true. The Barry confirmed that it was, in fact, true, but offered no further explanation or commentary. The inquisitive pilot asked a follow on question... “Is this acceptable to the Company and, if not, what are you doing about it?”
The Barry said that they were conducting more rigorous screening of new flight attendant applicants so that the applicants would be better aware of what they’re signing up for.
The pilot asked another question: “Have you considered treating them like human beings and paying them a livable wage?” The Barry responded by suggesting that maybe the Pilot should be part of the ongoing attrition.
The pilot was forced to resign a few months prior to the standard age 65 retirement date. Barry got his wish.
I share this story to (1) show the caliber of leadership here at Frontier, and (2) to suggest that the ALPA website describing working conditions at Frontier REALLY IS intended to help the Company make applicants aware of the sheetstorm they’re stepping into by applying at Frontier. Just being helpful, we are.
04-20-2018, 06:50 PM
#8565
On Reserve
Joined APC: Apr 2018
Posts: 17
And to add to the last point, this happened while Barry was enriching himself with a compensation package very comparable to Gary Kelly over at Swa. But how dare we pilots ask to be compensated 15-20% below what Swa guys and gals get paid. Frontierpilotfacts.com. Stay away. If you do come here now, I wouldn’t want to be know as a pilot who got hired here during this era. Just saying, it’s that bad!
04-21-2018, 04:20 AM
#8566
Banned
Joined APC: Oct 2014
Position: 6 Train - Panhandler
Posts: 2,001
Originally Posted by Seneca2
And to add to the last point, this happened while Barry was enriching himself with a compensation package very comparable to Gary Kelly over at Swa. But how dare we pilots ask to be compensated 15-20% below what Swa guys and gals get paid. Frontierpilotfacts.com. Stay away. If you do come here now, I wouldn’t want to be know as a pilot who got hired here during this era. Just saying, it’s that bad!
04-21-2018, 05:39 AM
#8567
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2016
Posts: 550
Originally Posted by TalkTurkey
I totally believe Frontier should be listed as a regional carrier. Got an email to re-apply. 37 bucks? Nope. I hope it gets better soon there. Although I doubt it. I wouldn’t touch a place owned by a private equity firm. I’ve seen movies like Wall Street and I’m watching how FM Radio is dying. Dadgum private equity groups, man. They’ll chop you up and spit you out.
04-22-2018, 07:23 AM
#8568
Line Holder
Joined APC: Mar 2014
Posts: 34
Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer
After they lose your resume, the silver bullet and application, they’ll find it and give you a call... you’ll be out flying or doing something with your family and miss the call... you’ll call back 4 or 5 times with no response... it’ll dawn on you that a normal airline, if they called you in the first place are indeed interested in your services, calls applicants back... they’ll send you an email that the hiring window is open and they’d like you to submit a resume... by the time they call you back, you’ll be a captain at Delta laughing at the ridiculous voicemail with your fo while you compare profit sharing checks
LMAO! Thank you for the heads up.
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