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Old 04-27-2018, 11:03 PM
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Originally Posted by SFA320 View Post
I’m not saying you are lying. But I honestly havent had any problems like what you’ve described. I’ve been a line holder for years, and I can’t think of one issue even close to what you have gone through. Anybody else want to chime in?
Good because I’m not lying and I’ve been a line holder for 12 years. About a month ago called mx, got a contract guy that didn’t know what a radnav was. My next question was, this is f9 mx correct?
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:03 AM
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THe only reason we don’t have issues like alligaint are due to the fact we’re flying newer planes.
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Old 04-28-2018, 04:36 AM
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Originally Posted by SFA320 View Post
I’m not saying you are lying. But I honestly havent had any problems like what you’ve described. I’ve been a line holder for years, and I can’t think of one issue even close to what you have gone through. Anybody else want to chime in?

Have you been flying line in past year or so? Do you pay attention to what is going on while you're are work? The mx has become an issue. And we can all thank ourselves (pilot group) for taking the time to actually put safety first to catch a lot of things.

And yes one day recently we had to show a nice contract guy at an outstation what a MCDU was. All this while I watch SOC hassling the Ca to go.
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Old 04-28-2018, 10:55 AM
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Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice:

I’m a separating military guy who has an interview invite for Frontier in May. I also have a training date for SkyWest shortly thereafter. Seeing as neither is my destination airline, I kind of see four options, and would appreciate any perspective from Frontier folks:

Assuming I get an F9 job offer, and assuming the training date would be sometime in July or August (from what I’ve seen on the forums) I could:

1. Disregard OO altogether and sit unemployed for 2-4 months waiting to start with F9.
2. Start training with OO and then give my 2 weeks’ notice when the first F9 training date comes up (I assume this would then show up on a PRIA report as did-not-complete-training)
3. Delay my F9 training date until I’m done with IOE at OO, and then give my notice.
4. Disregard F9 altogether and plug away at OO until I get called up to the big leagues.

It sounds like I’m going to be sitting on reserve a lot longer at F9 than at any regional. Also, slightly quicker upgrades at the regionals. That leads me to lean towards option 4. On the other hand, I’d hate to pass up F9 and then a month later learn that they pass a contract like Spirit did. What would ya’ll do if you were in my shoes?
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by SEAtoSummit View Post
Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice:

I’m a separating military guy who has an interview invite for Frontier in May. I also have a training date for SkyWest shortly thereafter. Seeing as neither is my destination airline, I kind of see four options, and would appreciate any perspective from Frontier folks:

Assuming I get an F9 job offer, and assuming the training date would be sometime in July or August (from what I’ve seen on the forums) I could:

1. Disregard OO altogether and sit unemployed for 2-4 months waiting to start with F9.
2. Start training with OO and then give my 2 weeks’ notice when the first F9 training date comes up (I assume this would then show up on a PRIA report as did-not-complete-training)
3. Delay my F9 training date until I’m done with IOE at OO, and then give my notice.
4. Disregard F9 altogether and plug away at OO until I get called up to the big leagues.

It sounds like I’m going to be sitting on reserve a lot longer at F9 than at any regional. Also, slightly quicker upgrades at the regionals. That leads me to lean towards option 4. On the other hand, I’d hate to pass up F9 and then a month later learn that they pass a contract like Spirit did. What would ya’ll do if you were in my shoes?
Option 4. You’ll probably get a call from a major soon after starting at OO. If we get a contract here you can always revisit coming to F9 at a later date.
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Old 04-28-2018, 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by SEAtoSummit View Post
Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice:

I’m a separating military guy who has an interview invite for Frontier in May. I also have a training date for SkyWest shortly thereafter. Seeing as neither is my destination airline, I kind of see four options, and would appreciate any perspective from Frontier folks:

Assuming I get an F9 job offer, and assuming the training date would be sometime in July or August (from what I’ve seen on the forums) I could:

1. Disregard OO altogether and sit unemployed for 2-4 months waiting to start with F9.
2. Start training with OO and then give my 2 weeks’ notice when the first F9 training date comes up (I assume this would then show up on a PRIA report as did-not-complete-training)
3. Delay my F9 training date until I’m done with IOE at OO, and then give my notice.
4. Disregard F9 altogether and plug away at OO until I get called up to the big leagues.

It sounds like I’m going to be sitting on reserve a lot longer at F9 than at any regional. Also, slightly quicker upgrades at the regionals. That leads me to lean towards option 4. On the other hand, I’d hate to pass up F9 and then a month later learn that they pass a contract like Spirit did. What would ya’ll do if you were in my shoes?
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Old 04-28-2018, 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by SEAtoSummit View Post
Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice:

I’m a separating military guy who has an interview invite for Frontier in May. I also have a training date for SkyWest shortly thereafter. Seeing as neither is my destination airline, I kind of see four options, and would appreciate any perspective from Frontier folks:

Assuming I get an F9 job offer, and assuming the training date would be sometime in July or August (from what I’ve seen on the forums) I could:

1. Disregard OO altogether and sit unemployed for 2-4 months waiting to start with F9.
2. Start training with OO and then give my 2 weeks’ notice when the first F9 training date comes up (I assume this would then show up on a PRIA report as did-not-complete-training)
3. Delay my F9 training date until I’m done with IOE at OO, and then give my notice.
4. Disregard F9 altogether and plug away at OO until I get called up to the big leagues.

It sounds like I’m going to be sitting on reserve a lot longer at F9 than at any regional. Also, slightly quicker upgrades at the regionals. That leads me to lean towards option 4. On the other hand, I’d hate to pass up F9 and then a month later learn that they pass a contract like Spirit did. What would ya’ll do if you were in my shoes?
I would take the interview then if you get the job offer do what’s best for you and your family. The F9 interview is tempormental at best. A lot of guys with great resumes like yourself don’t get the offer.
So I guess im leaning more towards option 2. I’m guessing you will be done with IOE by the time you would be scheduled for indoc. We have some military guys here, and I would rather wait at F9 over Skywest. But again that’s just me.
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Old 04-28-2018, 02:00 PM
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Originally Posted by CorpJetDriver View Post
"the maintenance is Allegiant like"

I've heard a lot of good and bad on here, but this caught my attention. I'm curious how many F9 pilots feel this way.
Actually, quite the contrary has been my experience. I included a negative statement about the maintenance as part of the example of all the negativity because that seems to be right in line with everything else in this thread about us . . . which is my point.

Let me be clear. F9 is not a great place to work right now. There are by far more negative aspects about this job than there are positive - many of which have been discussed infinitum.

However, there ARE positives. Prior to coming here, my experience has been with Boeing so I've pretty much been a Boeing guy. However, after flying the Bus for a while, I tend to like it - especially the size of the cockpit. And, since the fleet is fairly new (another positive), maintenance has been good. I've felt no pressure from management to accept broken aircraft or to not write up things. The flight attendants are decent enough - no better or worse than my last airline (regional). The training department seems really knowledgeable and helpful. The check airmen all seem to be fair without agendas. There are other small things ...

Overall, of course, my advice to anyone coming here is the same as it would be if I were at mainline - here's what's good, here's what I don't like about this place and here's where I think we're trending as a pilot group. And, as I mentioned above, there is a whole lot more "don't like" than like here.

Take it or leave it and good luck.
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Old 04-28-2018, 06:44 PM
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Originally Posted by SEAtoSummit View Post
Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice:

I’m a separating military guy who has an interview invite for Frontier in May. I also have a training date for SkyWest shortly thereafter. Seeing as neither is my destination airline, I kind of see four options, and would appreciate any perspective from Frontier folks:

Assuming I get an F9 job offer, and assuming the training date would be sometime in July or August (from what I’ve seen on the forums) I could:

1. Disregard OO altogether and sit unemployed for 2-4 months waiting to start with F9.
2. Start training with OO and then give my 2 weeks’ notice when the first F9 training date comes up (I assume this would then show up on a PRIA report as did-not-complete-training)
3. Delay my F9 training date until I’m done with IOE at OO, and then give my notice.
4. Disregard F9 altogether and plug away at OO until I get called up to the big leagues.

It sounds like I’m going to be sitting on reserve a lot longer at F9 than at any regional. Also, slightly quicker upgrades at the regionals. That leads me to lean towards option 4. On the other hand, I’d hate to pass up F9 and then a month later learn that they pass a contract like Spirit did. What would ya’ll do if you were in my shoes?
Option 4. No question.
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Old 04-28-2018, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by SEAtoSummit View Post
Hey all, I was hoping to get some advice:

I’m a separating military guy who has an interview invite for Frontier in May. I also have a training date for SkyWest shortly thereafter. Seeing as neither is my destination airline, I kind of see four options, and would appreciate any perspective from Frontier folks:

Assuming I get an F9 job offer, and assuming the training date would be sometime in July or August (from what I’ve seen on the forums) I could:

1. Disregard OO altogether and sit unemployed for 2-4 months waiting to start with F9.
2. Start training with OO and then give my 2 weeks’ notice when the first F9 training date comes up (I assume this would then show up on a PRIA report as did-not-complete-training)
3. Delay my F9 training date until I’m done with IOE at OO, and then give my notice.
4. Disregard F9 altogether and plug away at OO until I get called up to the big leagues.

It sounds like I’m going to be sitting on reserve a lot longer at F9 than at any regional. Also, slightly quicker upgrades at the regionals. That leads me to lean towards option 4. On the other hand, I’d hate to pass up F9 and then a month later learn that they pass a contract like Spirit did. What would ya’ll do if you were in my shoes?
Where do you live?
How do you know you’re gonna get a call from a legacy?
If you’re so sure, why not take a few months off and enjoy it? Why waste your time at Skywest or Frontier?
Why are you so sure you’d get hired here?

Seems like a waste of skywests and frontiers time... you seem sure that you’re gonna get a call from someone you actually want to work for... id take option 5... sit by your phone and hope someone you actually want to work for calls
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