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Old 05-25-2018, 07:04 PM
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It’s not a myth. It is 100% true..
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Old 05-26-2018, 04:05 AM
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OK, I still find this hard to believe. On both ends. First, kudos on the money saving idea. I’ve heard of three to a room, but never sleep in the car, and sim building. You my friend, were probably the one person I would say, “I get it bro, I understand why you came here.” Second, how could these penny pinching A-holes let someone like that go. Sounds like upper management’s wet dream. A pilot so desperate to work here they’re willing to do anything. “500 more of those please!” If this doesn’t show you what you’re in for, I don’t know what will. You want to come and work for this bunch of shysters, then just be prepared to take their front in your rear whenever they get the chance.

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100% READY AND WAITING FOR THE NMB TO STRIKE!!!

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Old 05-26-2018, 06:51 AM
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NEW HIRES DO NOT GET HOTELS PAID FOR!
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It was asked a few pages back if it would be held against a new hire for coming here. Let me ask prospective new hires some rhetorical questions. Why would our union put out the above website? Why would our union tell current F9 pilots about upcoming hiring events for other airlines? Yet, you are still thinking of coming here. Our own union is telling us we should seriously go out and start looking for new employment. Think about that, yet you still want to come here?We have two shots at getting a market rate contract. (We are paid closer to 50% less than everyone else now, not 40%.). Either the NMB releases us into a cooling off period, or New Hires stop coming here. That’s it! So if you think you want to be here, great! But ask yourself how you’d feel if you’d been through two bankruptcy restructurings, had LOA 67 that was to return us to industry average pay rates, Had an neutral arbitrator rule in the union’s favor, yet we are still having to bend over and grab our ankles. Hell, even Brian Bedford has said we deserve a pay raise. So how would you feel when new hires continue to show up for this sh!tshow? If F9 can’t fill classes, guess what, we now have some leverage over the company. But, I understand your current job is awful, or what ever reason you come up with. Well this job blows, and new hires coming here only keeps it that way even longer. But I’m sure you will be welcomed by everyone!
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Old 05-26-2018, 07:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Seneca2 View Post
NEW HIRES DO NOT GET HOTELS PAID FOR!
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It was asked a few pages back if it would be held against a new hire for coming here. Let me ask prospective new hires some rhetorical questions. Why would our union put out the above website? Why would our union tell current F9 pilots about upcoming hiring events for other airlines? Yet, you are still thinking of coming here. Our own union is telling us we should seriously go out and start looking for new employment. Think about that, yet you still want to come here?We have two shots at getting a market rate contract. (We are paid closer to 50% less than everyone else now, not 40%.). Either the NMB releases us into a cooling off period, or New Hires stop coming here. That’s it! So if you think you want to be here, great! But ask yourself how you’d feel if you’d been through two bankruptcy restructurings, had LOA 67 that was to return us to industry average pay rates, Had an neutral arbitrator rule in the union’s favor, yet we are still having to bend over and grab our ankles. Hell, even Brian Bedford has said we deserve a pay raise. So how would you feel when new hires continue to show up for this sh!tshow? If F9 can’t fill classes, guess what, we now have some leverage over the company. But, I understand your current job is awful, or what ever reason you come up with. Well this job blows, and new hires coming here only keeps it that way even longer. But I’m sure you will be welcomed by everyone!

Dave Siegal the former Frontier CEO also said that the Frontier pilots should get a raise as well!
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Old 05-26-2018, 08:20 AM
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Had vp on flight....asked when do we get a contract. ..he said soon, to that I replied, how may days will we need to strike for, I have 3 months saved up. All he said was "I guess your prepared", is said I'm not the only one.....
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Old 05-26-2018, 09:51 AM
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Had vp on flight....asked when do we get a contract. ..he said soon, to that I replied, how may days will we need to strike for, I have 3 months saved up. All he said was "I guess your prepared", is said I'm not the only one.....

I mean it when I say that I can go much, much longer than Indigo can stand to.
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Old 05-26-2018, 12:01 PM
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson View Post
I mean it when I say that I can go much, much longer than Indigo can stand to.
What does that mean?? You can be the lowest paid airbus pilot in the country and go on much, much longer than indigo?? They’ll gladly pay you sh!t wages forever... and then you can vote no because there isn’t gonna be 100% retro... there isn’t gonna be an improvement in the Ltd... they’ve already agreed to per diem that is $.25 below spirit... we have ZERO leverage... people keep showing up to class... people keep flying incentivized trips... we’re basically praying that the NMB does the right thing and releases us... that’s our only leverage and it isn’t even close to a certainty... so whether you like it or not, you’re gonna have to go much, much longer
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Old 05-26-2018, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by NWSteeringArmer View Post
What does that mean?? You can be the lowest paid airbus pilot in the country and go on much, much longer than indigo?? They’ll gladly pay you sh!t wages forever... and then you can vote no because there isn’t gonna be 100% retro... there isn’t gonna be an improvement in the Ltd... they’ve already agreed to per diem that is $.25 below spirit... we have ZERO leverage... people keep showing up to class... people keep flying incentivized trips... we’re basically praying that the NMB does the right thing and releases us... that’s our only leverage and it isn’t even close to a certainty... so whether you like it or not, you’re gonna have to go much, much longer
I think he means he can strike longer than Indigo can go without airplanes flying.
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Old 05-26-2018, 12:35 PM
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The longer they wait the more it will take to get me off the picket line..
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Old 05-26-2018, 12:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Salukipilot4590 View Post
I think he means he can strike longer than Indigo can go without airplanes flying.
Understood then
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