Frontier Hiring.
06-06-2018 | 07:17 AM
#8741
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Potential new hires, there is hope!
I'm staring down 3rd year pay in the distance, coming this winter. With a little bit of luck and per diem, I'm going to break the 70k threshold in 2019. It's going to be a wild Christmas around this fireplace!
At the end of three years, I'll have come a long way towards closing the gap from leaving my regional. My spreadsheet shows I'll only be Negative $14,400.00 behind in pay, and that even counts paying for my own hotel during training here. Not too shabby.
Yeah, I know, it'd take more years to bridge that gap if you're a regional captain, but what regional captains are looking at F9? As a regional FO, the gap is much easier to bridge and should only take 3-4 years to make up what you lost by leaving the right seat of your regional and coming to Frontier.
I'm staring down 3rd year pay in the distance, coming this winter. With a little bit of luck and per diem, I'm going to break the 70k threshold in 2019. It's going to be a wild Christmas around this fireplace!
At the end of three years, I'll have come a long way towards closing the gap from leaving my regional. My spreadsheet shows I'll only be Negative $14,400.00 behind in pay, and that even counts paying for my own hotel during training here. Not too shabby.
Yeah, I know, it'd take more years to bridge that gap if you're a regional captain, but what regional captains are looking at F9? As a regional FO, the gap is much easier to bridge and should only take 3-4 years to make up what you lost by leaving the right seat of your regional and coming to Frontier.
06-06-2018 | 10:29 AM
#8742
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Joined: Apr 2016
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Potential new hires, there is hope!
I'm staring down 3rd year pay in the distance, coming this winter. With a little bit of luck and per diem, I'm going to break the 70k threshold in 2019. It's going to be a wild Christmas around this fireplace!
At the end of three years, I'll have come a long way towards closing the gap from leaving my regional. My spreadsheet shows I'll only be Negative $14,400.00 behind in pay, and that even counts paying for my own hotel during training here. Not too shabby.
Yeah, I know, it'd take more years to bridge that gap if you're a regional captain, but what regional captains are looking at F9? As a regional FO, the gap is much easier to bridge and should only take 3-4 years to make up what you lost by leaving the right seat of your regional and coming to Frontier.
I'm staring down 3rd year pay in the distance, coming this winter. With a little bit of luck and per diem, I'm going to break the 70k threshold in 2019. It's going to be a wild Christmas around this fireplace!
At the end of three years, I'll have come a long way towards closing the gap from leaving my regional. My spreadsheet shows I'll only be Negative $14,400.00 behind in pay, and that even counts paying for my own hotel during training here. Not too shabby.
Yeah, I know, it'd take more years to bridge that gap if you're a regional captain, but what regional captains are looking at F9? As a regional FO, the gap is much easier to bridge and should only take 3-4 years to make up what you lost by leaving the right seat of your regional and coming to Frontier.
100% READY AND WAITING
06-06-2018 | 11:20 AM
#8744
Gets Weekends Off
Joined: Jan 2018
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So let me get this straight, you're all proud of the fact that after almost three years you are "only14,000" negative in pay. You could've had an A320 type for around 10 grand, and probably been at UA, or DAL by now.if you would've gotten a 737 type you could've been at WN. Then you'd be ahead of the game.
100% READY AND WAITING
100% READY AND WAITING
If I’d have hired on at UAL, I’d be grossing over 149k at min guarantee with the 16% DC. Instead, I might break 70k with per diem at F9
Something for the regional peeps to think about. It is NOT temporary pain for long term gain at F9. It’ll take YEARS to get back to where you were, in the right seat at your regional. Even when/if we do get a contract, all signs are pointing to an industry-bottom contract. All airlines have their issues with customer service and so forth, but seriously, Indigo has turned what used to be a nice little airline into a profit-ONLY s-hole.
Don’t think you’re not going to regret coming to Frontier if you’ve got average standards and expectations for your career.
06-06-2018 | 12:15 PM
#8745
Stirring the pot
Joined: Oct 2016
Posts: 1,608
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From: Off reserve 🤫
^^^^^
Agreed
Our ownership has destroyed any loyalty or pride working here once had.....
It’s just a lousy JOB now....
Working for the scraps of the 5th and 20th..
To late to go somewhere else
Agreed
Our ownership has destroyed any loyalty or pride working here once had.....
It’s just a lousy JOB now....
Working for the scraps of the 5th and 20th..
To late to go somewhere else
06-06-2018 | 02:28 PM
#8747
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Joined: Jun 2016
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Those of you thinking a lack of new hires will squeeze management should rethink that strategy. Air Wisconsin has been in that boat for a few years now. Cancelling dozens of flights every day, giving flying away to other regionals, junior manning everyone repeatedly. Its ugly. What was managements offer during all this? 1% 2 years from now.
Dont think a lack of new hires is going to change anyones mind. They'll just work the rest of you to death and call it teamwork culture. Meanwhile theyre saving millions on ancillary costs when it comes to staffing an airline with pilots.
Long story short, dont blame the new hires for showing up and dont think a lack of new hires will give you any additional leverage.
Dont think a lack of new hires is going to change anyones mind. They'll just work the rest of you to death and call it teamwork culture. Meanwhile theyre saving millions on ancillary costs when it comes to staffing an airline with pilots.
Long story short, dont blame the new hires for showing up and dont think a lack of new hires will give you any additional leverage.
06-06-2018 | 03:03 PM
#8748
On Reserve
Joined: Aug 2017
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Those of you thinking a lack of new hires will squeeze management should rethink that strategy. Air Wisconsin has been in that boat for a few years now. Cancelling dozens of flights every day, giving flying away to other regionals, junior manning everyone repeatedly. Its ugly. What was managements offer during all this? 1% 2 years from now.
Dont think a lack of new hires is going to change anyones mind. They'll just work the rest of you to death and call it teamwork culture. Meanwhile theyre saving millions on ancillary costs when it comes to staffing an airline with pilots.
Long story short, dont blame the new hires for showing up and dont think a lack of new hires will give you any additional leverage.
Dont think a lack of new hires is going to change anyones mind. They'll just work the rest of you to death and call it teamwork culture. Meanwhile theyre saving millions on ancillary costs when it comes to staffing an airline with pilots.
Long story short, dont blame the new hires for showing up and dont think a lack of new hires will give you any additional leverage.
Is Air Wisconsin's compensation close to 50% less than the other regionals? Are other regionals having trouble finding new hires? Did Air wisconsin offer more money to get people through the door?.....?
06-06-2018 | 04:59 PM
#8749
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Joined: Jun 2016
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Were in a similar boat so I truly understand what you guys are going through. I just dont want new hires being blamed for lack of progress because there would be no progress anyway. Your opponents are in Denver 'poking the bear' Not the guys and gals walking in the door from a regional.
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