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Old 07-10-2018 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Where are you guys getting your numbers from? These are all completely inaccurate.

In April we had 75 aircraft. 3 were in heavy checks and 3 were spares.
As of right now, we have 75 aircraft. There are none in heavy all summer and 3 are spares.

We take delivery of 332, 335 and 336 in August. We take another 2 Sept, 3 in Oct, 2 in Nov, and 2 in Dec.
This^ Everybody else's numbers are way off. I don't know DENpilot but I have the same info.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Where are you guys getting your numbers from? These are all completely inaccurate.

In April we had 75 aircraft. 3 were in heavy checks and 3 were spares.
As of right now, we have 75 aircraft. There are none in heavy all summer and 3 are spares.

We take delivery of 332, 335 and 336 in August. We take another 2 Sept, 3 in Oct, 2 in Nov, and 2 in Dec.
So 12 more airplanes by years end? How many are we giving back ? How are we gonna staff them ?
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Old 07-10-2018 | 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by madmax757
So 12 more airplanes by years end? How many are we giving back ? How are we gonna staff them ?
We are giving back as many classics as we can. It’s obvious Franke wants to be an all NEO fleet ASAP. And don’t forget he pockets millions for each and every NEO he takes delivery and does a sale lease back. Frontier is one big fat pig for Franke. Honestly, I’d say a new hire is looking at 6-7 year upgrade at the earliest.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 04:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Mugatu
We are giving back as many classics as we can. It’s obvious Franke wants to be an all NEO fleet ASAP. And don’t forget he pockets millions for each and every NEO he takes delivery and does a sale lease back. Frontier is one big fat pig for Franke. Honestly, I’d say a new hire is looking at 6-7 year upgrade at the earliest.



Can you explain this please. With all due respect, I simply don't understand and wish to be enlightened.


Thanks.
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Old 07-10-2018 | 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by donkeyjockey
Can you explain this please. With all due respect, I simply don't understand and wish to be enlightened.


Thanks.
You sound like a robo/management troll, so no.
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Old 07-11-2018 | 10:48 AM
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We are only returning 3 later this year. One in Oct, one in Nov, and one in December. In 2019 and 2020, we are only returning 3 each year.
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Old 07-11-2018 | 10:50 AM
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Upgrades are 5-6 years if hired today. Or longer if deliveries are delayed.
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Old 07-11-2018 | 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Jeffs 1st Wife
It's pathetic anyone would consider even working for Frontier. Horrible work rules, horrible pay, corrupt management etc. It's also pathetic that their pilots allow management to dick them around......not even real pilots.
I guess we now know why Jeff got a 2nd wife...
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Old 07-11-2018 | 11:30 AM
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Obviously a 1 time management troll posting designed to provoke and elicit responses to use in their next letter. Thankfully I think all the real Frontier pilots have abandoned posting on this forum until we have an agreement to sign. Talk to your reps if you need info. This place is a cesspool of entrapment and misinformation. Post at your own risk.

100% READY TO STRIKE!!! And waiting for a feckless government agency to wake up!!!

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Old 07-11-2018 | 05:04 PM
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The embarrassment is real guys. I can't even say this place is better than the worst regional. Here are a few things mgmt has done recently.
Cancelled 170ish pilots vacations for the month of August.
Sent threatening letters to pilots who have called out sick for more than 12 days in a calendar year.
Sent threatening letters to pilots who flew less than 70 hours in a month this last year.
Telling dispatchers, crew scheduling and SOC to blame the pilots on all of the cancelled flights.
And who knows whats next from them. I've never been around a more toxic environment.
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