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Old 07-17-2018 | 03:54 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Actually, as I learned today, that couldn't be further from the truth.

The guys who were fired had over 40 sick days prior to being let go.
Big question, were they covered by legit doctor's notes?
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Old 07-17-2018 | 03:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Arliss
Big question, were they covered by legit doctor's notes?
I don't know... but regardless, that is A LOT of sick time usage in a year.
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Old 07-17-2018 | 06:38 PM
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Originally Posted by DENpilot
Actually, as I learned today, that couldn't be further from the truth.

The guys who were fired had over 40 sick days prior to being let go.
Do you know how many were actually fired? I heard 10?
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Old 07-17-2018 | 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Need a real job
Do you know how many were actually fired? I heard 10?
Was most definitely not 10. Only 3. Anyone with Flica access can confirm this. A real time seniority list is kept within the current system bid folder.
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Old 07-19-2018 | 05:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Powderkeg
I don’t think it’s even that high. Meanwhile classes still running 20+ each month. So no VSA/upgrades is odd.
Anyone know why they didn’t run a VSA for July? I heard they hired 20+ guys. Maybe it’s a sign they’re backed up in sims and don’t expect them to be put on the line by October?
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Old 07-19-2018 | 04:45 PM
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New hires will have a very short leash now. This new Pilot Peer Program will keep you in check. I guess there have been a few failing out lately.
Here is just a sample of the new program.

The goal of the Pilot Peer Review program is to provide oversight and guidance to new-hire / probationary First
Officers through evaluation of six criteria to include:
- Flying in accordance with Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)
- Pilot duties (i.e. walk-around, Pilot Flying/Monitoring)
- Knowledge (FAR’s, Flight Operations Manuals, etc.)
- Crew Resource Management (CRM)
- Professionalism
- Appearance (i.e. uniform standards and overall appearance)
The success of the program rests within the hands of the largest stakeholders, the Pilots. Open and honest
feedback allows us to ensure the success of our Pilot group. A brief Program Overview includes:
- First Officer’s will be required to obtain three (3) New Hire Pilot Reviews from Captains with whom
they have flown within six (6) months from date of hire.
- After obtaining three reports, no later than 6 months, the First Officer will meet with their respective
Base Chief Pilot to review their peer reports.
- Base Chief Pilots will, in person, review performance standards and expectations with corrective
actions and/or commendations and determine if subsequent meetings are required at nine (9) months
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Old 07-19-2018 | 05:27 PM
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Since it’s required. I guess captains will be paid for doing this?

And yes that’s sarcasm.
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Old 07-19-2018 | 06:07 PM
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Why would we do anything for this company/CPO after the letters they sent out and the cancelled vacations. Not in our contract
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Old 07-19-2018 | 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Missed Appch
Since it’s required. I guess captains will be paid for doing this?

And yes that’s sarcasm.
Of course not, they’ll do it because they know if they don’t a new hire on probation will be terminated because they weren’t able to get enough “gold stars.”

Also did ANYONE notice the line; “In the next decade, Frontier Airlines will be growing and facing the challenge of having a junior seniority group compared to major and legacy airlines.”

...major and legacy airlines...

Our own chief pilot doesn’t see frontier as a major airline. He could have said other majors but he didn’t. Just that one little oversight said more than any pep memo could.

If you aren’t here, look elsewhere. If you are here get your paper in order.
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Old 07-19-2018 | 06:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Duct Mon
New hires will have a very short leash now. This new Pilot Peer Program will keep you in check. I guess there have been a few failing out lately.
Here is just a sample of the new program.

The goal of the Pilot Peer Review program is to provide oversight and guidance to new-hire / probationary First
Officers through evaluation of six criteria to include:
- Flying in accordance with Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)
- Pilot duties (i.e. walk-around, Pilot Flying/Monitoring)
- Knowledge (FAR’s, Flight Operations Manuals, etc.)
- Crew Resource Management (CRM)
- Professionalism
- Appearance (i.e. uniform standards and overall appearance)
The success of the program rests within the hands of the largest stakeholders, the Pilots. Open and honest
feedback allows us to ensure the success of our Pilot group. A brief Program Overview includes:
- First Officer’s will be required to obtain three (3) New Hire Pilot Reviews from Captains with whom
they have flown within six (6) months from date of hire.
- After obtaining three reports, no later than 6 months, the First Officer will meet with their respective
Base Chief Pilot to review their peer reports.
- Base Chief Pilots will, in person, review performance standards and expectations with corrective
actions and/or commendations and determine if subsequent meetings are required at nine (9) months
Is this in the CBA?

I guess I’ll “opt out”
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