Frontier Hiring.
07-19-2018, 06:29 PM
#8883
Pierce & Pierce
Joined APC: Dec 2010
Position: Mergers and acquisitions
Posts: 88
Originally Posted by Missed Appch
Since it’s required. I guess captains will be paid for doing this?
And yes that’s sarcasm.
And yes that’s sarcasm.
Also did ANYONE notice the line; “In the next decade, Frontier Airlines will be growing and facing the challenge of having a junior seniority group compared to major and legacy airlines.”
...major and legacy airlines...
Our own chief pilot doesn’t see frontier as a major airline. He could have said other majors but he didn’t. Just that one little oversight said more than any pep memo could.
If you aren’t here, look elsewhere. If you are here get your paper in order.
07-19-2018, 06:52 PM
#8884
Slave
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: Hot tub
Posts: 1,348
Originally Posted by Duct Mon
New hires will have a very short leash now. This new Pilot Peer Program will keep you in check. I guess there have been a few failing out lately.
Here is just a sample of the new program.
The goal of the Pilot Peer Review program is to provide oversight and guidance to new-hire / probationary First
Officers through evaluation of six criteria to include:
- Flying in accordance with Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)
- Pilot duties (i.e. walk-around, Pilot Flying/Monitoring)
- Knowledge (FAR’s, Flight Operations Manuals, etc.)
- Crew Resource Management (CRM)
- Professionalism
- Appearance (i.e. uniform standards and overall appearance)
The success of the program rests within the hands of the largest stakeholders, the Pilots. Open and honest
feedback allows us to ensure the success of our Pilot group. A brief Program Overview includes:
- First Officer’s will be required to obtain three (3) New Hire Pilot Reviews from Captains with whom
they have flown within six (6) months from date of hire.
- After obtaining three reports, no later than 6 months, the First Officer will meet with their respective
Base Chief Pilot to review their peer reports.
- Base Chief Pilots will, in person, review performance standards and expectations with corrective
actions and/or commendations and determine if subsequent meetings are required at nine (9) months
Here is just a sample of the new program.
The goal of the Pilot Peer Review program is to provide oversight and guidance to new-hire / probationary First
Officers through evaluation of six criteria to include:
- Flying in accordance with Standard Operating Procedures (SOP)
- Pilot duties (i.e. walk-around, Pilot Flying/Monitoring)
- Knowledge (FAR’s, Flight Operations Manuals, etc.)
- Crew Resource Management (CRM)
- Professionalism
- Appearance (i.e. uniform standards and overall appearance)
The success of the program rests within the hands of the largest stakeholders, the Pilots. Open and honest
feedback allows us to ensure the success of our Pilot group. A brief Program Overview includes:
- First Officer’s will be required to obtain three (3) New Hire Pilot Reviews from Captains with whom
they have flown within six (6) months from date of hire.
- After obtaining three reports, no later than 6 months, the First Officer will meet with their respective
Base Chief Pilot to review their peer reports.
- Base Chief Pilots will, in person, review performance standards and expectations with corrective
actions and/or commendations and determine if subsequent meetings are required at nine (9) months
I guess I’ll “opt out”
07-20-2018, 08:09 AM
#8885
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by ReserveCA
Is this in the CBA?
I guess I’ll “opt out”
I guess I’ll “opt out”
(The legacies have this program as well)
Plus let's be honest, after seeing how some of the captains fill out class two paperwork these "reports" will be done between the time the FA hands you coffee and the cockpit door closes so don't act like it's a huge burden.
07-20-2018, 08:55 AM
#8886
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Apr 2017
Posts: 464
Originally Posted by therapysession
Just out of curiosity why wouldn't any of us want to help the people we work closest with everyday? I think anything that brings this pilot group together and more unified is a good thing and you build those relationships by one on one interaction. Mentorship is a good thing, something we all should be doing already before it was even put out as a memo. Just my opinion though....
(The legacies have this program as well)
Plus let's be honest, after seeing how some of the captains fill out class two paperwork these "reports" will be done between the time the FA hands you coffee and the cockpit door closes so don't act like it's a huge burden.
(The legacies have this program as well)
Plus let's be honest, after seeing how some of the captains fill out class two paperwork these "reports" will be done between the time the FA hands you coffee and the cockpit door closes so don't act like it's a huge burden.
07-20-2018, 09:10 AM
#8887
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Feb 2018
Posts: 224
Originally Posted by Gary et al
How about you stop wasting company time on forums and get back to real work in that cubicle. You know figure out more ways to "poke the bear"
07-20-2018, 10:54 AM
#8888
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: doggy style
Posts: 1,006
Originally Posted by therapysession
Cubicle!!!? How dare you....more like corner window view.
07-20-2018, 11:35 AM
#8889
Slave
Joined APC: Oct 2016
Position: Hot tub
Posts: 1,348
Originally Posted by therapysession
Just out of curiosity why wouldn't any of us want to help the people we work closest with everyday? I think anything that brings this pilot group together and more unified is a good thing and you build those relationships by one on one interaction. Mentorship is a good thing, something we all should be doing already before it was even put out as a memo. Just my opinion though....
(The legacies have this program as well)
Plus let's be honest, after seeing how some of the captains fill out class two paperwork these "reports" will be done between the time the FA hands you coffee and the cockpit door closes so don't act like it's a huge burden.
(The legacies have this program as well)
Plus let's be honest, after seeing how some of the captains fill out class two paperwork these "reports" will be done between the time the FA hands you coffee and the cockpit door closes so don't act like it's a huge burden.
Unfortunately at this place it’s CYA!
07-20-2018, 12:23 PM
#8890
Banned
Joined APC: Nov 2008
Position: doggy style
Posts: 1,006
Originally Posted by ReserveCA
I will NOT sign anything not required by the CBA......
Unfortunately at this place it’s CYA!
Unfortunately at this place it’s CYA!
if an FO asks you to do one of these reports, you're really going to deny them???
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