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Old 07-08-2018 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by jetliner1526
F9 wishes to double the number of candidates immediately. You heard it here first.
Hmm I wonder how they could do that?
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Old 07-09-2018 | 06:06 AM
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Originally Posted by SFA320
Hmm I wonder how they could do that?
Hedley Lamarr will be our new recruiter.
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Old 07-09-2018 | 06:20 AM
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I have talked to several RJ captains on my commute and they have received invites to interview at F9 and are declining them. It's a shame that we are losing out on good candidates.
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Old 07-09-2018 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by Chief Brody
I have talked to several RJ captains on my commute and they have received invites to interview at F9 and are declining them. It's a shame that we are losing out on good candidates.
I've been contemplating applying, but honestly I can't justify the pay. That and the absurdity of no paid hotels in training. I think Delta doesn't pay for a portion of hotel's during training, but do I even have to make an argument about it? I wish you guys the best of luck and mainly for a contract sooner than later. Until then I'll stay on the sidelines.
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Old 07-09-2018 | 08:39 AM
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got an invite for the virtual job fair. Just wondering if anyone has any experience with the process. what should one expect and what is dress code. I will be on the road. Is my uniform acceptable or should I bring a dress shirt and alternate tie?


thanks
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Old 07-09-2018 | 08:49 AM
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I dont think they'll have trouble getting guys. I was on a commute the other day. Sitting in the jumpseat on the ERJ175. Both the SkyWest Captain (2006 DOH) and FO (not sure how long he'd been at SkyWest) accepted the job at F9 and seemed really excited.
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Old 07-09-2018 | 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by InThisTogether
I dont think they'll have trouble getting guys. I was on a commute the other day. Sitting in the jumpseat on the ERJ175. Both the SkyWest Captain (2006 DOH) and FO (not sure how long he'd been at SkyWest) accepted the job at F9 and seemed really excited.
I feel bad for them because that wears off REAL quick. Too soon your waiting and waiting and waiting only for things to keep getting worse. One setback after another (via a lack of progress) while the company puts one bad-faith step in front of the other towards this pilot group. And the union is totally neutered and useless because the process with the NMB is so illegitimate and rigged. The operation was already a wreck and now the company is sabotaging it purposefully and getting malicious against individual pilots.

All this, your hotel bill, and $1,100 every two weeks. No thanks if I had it to do all over again.

Hopefully they've got time to reconsider.
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Old 07-09-2018 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by FLYMIA
I've been contemplating applying, but honestly I can't justify the pay. That and the absurdity of no paid hotels in training. I think Delta doesn't pay for a portion of hotel's during training, but do I even have to make an argument about it? I wish you guys the best of luck and mainly for a contract sooner than later. Until then I'll stay on the sidelines.
This. I went ACMI at 1st year rate of $113 ph rather than go to F9, pay for my own hotel, jumpseat commute to a crashpad, and all for poverty wages at an obviously toxic environment with management.

Here I’m home based, positive spaced to my trips and I keep the airline award miles. No crashpads ever. We keep hotel points at most hotels. Paid hotels in training. Decent pay in training. Full pay after type/PC, not after IOE like other places. Crew meals (typically steak, salmon)... 12 year CA pay now $20 ph more than United on same equipment. Scheduling treats you like a professional. Flying a heavy with international experience. Typing this on my 4 day layover in Honolulu. Can’t even imagine what I was thinking when I looked into going to F9.
Way too many better options for pilots these days.
The longer it takes the deeper into the shortage it goes and the better your eventual contract should be. I know our joint wished they hadn’t hard balled the pilots two years ago... they’d kill today for what was being asked for back then. Two years later, highest 1st year pay in 121 industry.

Stand strong guys, you’ll win in the end
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Old 07-09-2018 | 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
This. I went ACMI at 1st year rate of $113 ph rather than go to F9, pay for my own hotel, jumpseat commute to a crashpad, and all for poverty wages at an obviously toxic environment with management.

Here I’m home based, positive spaced to my trips and I keep the airline award miles. No crashpads ever. We keep hotel points at most hotels. Paid hotels in training. Decent pay in training. Full pay after type/PC, not after IOE like other places. Crew meals (typically steak, salmon)... 12 year CA pay now $20 ph more than United on same equipment. Scheduling treats you like a professional. Flying a heavy with international experience. Typing this on my 4 day layover in Honolulu. Can’t even imagine what I was thinking when I looked into going to F9.
Way too many better options for pilots these days.
The longer it takes the deeper into the shortage it goes and the better your eventual contract should be. I know our joint wished they hadn’t hard balled the pilots two years ago... they’d kill today for what was being asked for back then. Two years later, highest 1st year pay in 121 industry.

Stand strong guys, you’ll win in the end
Glad it worked out for you. Yes we will get a contract, it will happen. Enjoy your 4 days in HNL, just curious what do you do for the other 12-14 days on your trip? Man, I can barely handle a 4 day. Ha ha
Yes right now sucks at F9, but I don’t fault anybody for coming here. If you come please don’t pay for a hotel during training....I’m not sure who in the right mind would do this. Plenty of quality and quiet crashpads close to the training center for 250-450. Yes, manamgent and the pay is rough right now....but those things change. Spirit sucked 3-5 years ago. Those guys who went are now decently senior captains making well over 200k, with great retirement. Who knows what will happen to F9. Is it a risk....somewhat. Will it pay off? I think so.
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Old 07-09-2018 | 05:59 PM
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Don’t believe their bull****.

Management is a bunch of liars! They are purposely driving the operation off a cliff, so they can blame it on pilots. The operation is an embarrassment. Management is taking August vacations, as a petty retaliation for the cancellation of LOA 65. Currently First Officer reserve is long. The proposed delivery schedule is fiction. We are nowhere near a contract or a release by the NMB. The quality of life of line holders is eroding.
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