And to add to the last point, this happened while Barry was enriching himself with a compensation package very comparable to Gary Kelly over at Swa. But how dare we pilots ask to be compensated 15-20% below what Swa guys and gals get paid. Frontierpilotfacts.com. Stay away. If you do come here now, I wouldn’t want to be know as a pilot who got hired here during this era. Just saying, it’s that bad!

 

I totally believe Frontier should be listed as a regional carrier. Got an email to re-apply. 37 bucks? Nope. I hope it gets better soon there. Although I doubt it. I wouldn’t touch a place owned by a private equity firm. I’ve seen movies like Wall Street and I’m watching how FM Radio is dying. Dadgum private equity groups, man. They’ll chop you up and spit you out.

 

Cool story

 

LMAO! Thank you for the heads up.

 

Haha I laughed pretty hard at your response. Much needed, I was thinking the same thing.

 

What’s the current reserve time at DEN and ORD?

 

Year+

filler.....

 

Over a year for both and presumably that way until they start hiring bigger classes again at the end of the year. They are planning a regular size class for May and two small classes in June/July then back to normal size if the can fill them August onward, but their plan changes daily.

 

This. You'll be on second year pay before you see a line. So budget $39 x 75 × 12 ($35,000) to support your family for an entire year.

FYI, the company wanted to drop reserves down to 70 hours. Yes, cut your first year pay even lower. Keep that in mind if you do actually show up for an interview.

 

Listen, fellas...

All this discouragement to potential new employees is silly. It really is beneath us and unneccesary. Guys are languishing at corporate or in the regionals (like I was) and are looking to improve their plight. Despite how bad it is here currently, it's still a step up. I get being informative to them but we should be welcoming them with open arms into our brotherhood should they be offered a FO position and they accept it.

Why? For two reasons. One is obvious - it's the right thing to do. They are our brothers (and sisters) in the industry and might possibly share a cockpit/road trip or two (or 1000) with us someday.

Two, they really don't have that much bearing on our contract situation. There are literally tens of thousands of regional pilots waiting. Maybe some have crossed us off for now but there are more than enough to fill out an app and attend an interview. So, THEY aren't going to affect the companies recruiting efforts nor will they sway the companies efforts toward their contract negotiations. The ONLY thing that we have going for us is our good faith bargaining, the industry continuing to increase wages at other airlines and the NMB releasing us. That's it.

So while I'm sure everyone coming to this thread appreciates the "candor" and verocity with which the negative aspects of a job at F9 is shared/displayed, I think is speaks less about the company we work for and more about the F9 pilot community.

Just my $0.02. Throw spears in 5, 4, 3 . .