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Old 10-07-2018 | 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
To all you pilots looking to come here, be advised that our aircraft cleaners just got a raise. They now make more picking up after our passengers than you do flying the jet. Priceless.
Well, at least they are paying somebody! How much was their raise? Maybe now our planes will be clean? Ha ha
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Old 10-07-2018 | 10:56 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
To all you pilots looking to come here, be advised that our aircraft cleaners just got a raise. They now make more picking up after our passengers than you do flying the jet. Priceless.
I am happy for the aircraft cleaners.

How much is flying the jet worth? What about the other jet? What about the APU? It's a jet too. What about left turns? Does the aileron that goes up pay more than the aileron that goes down? All important questions.

Welp, time to jump in the reciprocating and head to the airport.
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Old 10-07-2018 | 11:10 AM
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Originally Posted by V1 McFlyerson
I am happy for the aircraft cleaners.

How much is flying the jet worth? What about the other jet? What about the APU? It's a jet too. What about left turns? Does the aileron that goes up pay more than the aileron that goes down? All important questions.

Welp, time to jump in the reciprocating and head to the airport.
Not sure I follow your rhetoric.
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Old 10-07-2018 | 12:32 PM
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Originally Posted by SFA320
Well, at least they are paying somebody! How much was their raise? Maybe now our planes will be clean? Ha ha
Maybe it’s time for them to put the lipstick on this Pig 🐷 - maybe an IPO or sale is coming soon.

They’re gonna make some cash though. Instead of an hourly wage - they’re being paid per wad of gum they scrape up. They’ll be making Biffle bucks $$$$

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Old 10-08-2018 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by PulledBreaker
To all you pilots looking to come here, be advised that our aircraft cleaners just got a raise. They now make more picking up after our passengers than you do flying the jet. Priceless.
Hey, remember back in 2014 it was the cleaners at Frontier kept the US safe from an Ebola outbreak three years ago. They assured the world that the "thorough" cleaning after the Cleveland to Dallas flight sanitized the plane.

Frontier jet that carried Ebola patient made five more flights - Los Angeles Times
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Old 10-14-2018 | 02:33 PM
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Don’t come here honestly. Why would anyone in the last year come work for a pilot group that is trying to strike? What other lines will you cross to get out of that RJ or 135 operation???
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Old 10-16-2018 | 04:32 PM
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Stay informed
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Old 10-16-2018 | 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by FairWage
Wish ALPA had done this for NK while we were getting sued. Good luck!!
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Old 10-18-2018 | 12:49 PM
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Are we allowed to post quotes from ALPA emails? Well, I won’t risk direct quotes, but I’ll paraphrase the applicable info for anyone who still thinks it’s worth coming here:

Assuming a credit of 75 hrs per month, a 14 year F9 Captain makes 166,000. That’s the TOP paying position at F9.

A 1st year United FO makes 124,000 and by year 3 makes 173,000 when you include retirement and profit sharing. That’s right, a 3rd year narrowbody FO at United makes more than our topped-out captains. (So what was that argument about quick upgrades being worth it?)

Speaking of quick upgrades, at Delta, guys can hold JFK Airbus Capt at 3 yrs on property. At F9 your looking at 3.5 years minimum to hold PHL capt, which pays LESS than a 2nd(!) year FO at United (and probably Delta, American, Southwest, etc. etc.)

Oh, if you want DEN captain at F9 it takes over 5 years to hold. You want a line in DEN? TRY 17.5 YEARS.

Upgrades and retirement? Not at F9. Based on age 65, there are 66 retirements in the next 5 years and 218 in the next 10.

At the top 9 good airlines (Delta, AA, WN, FDX, UA, JetBlue, Alaska, UPS, and Hawaiian), there are a combined 12,900 retirements in the next 5 years and a whopping 27,900 in the next ten!

There is NO good reason to even CONSIDER Frontier right now. It will do NOTHING for your career but cost you money and waste your time.
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Old 10-18-2018 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mesabi
Are we allowed to post quotes from ALPA emails? Well, I won’t risk direct quotes, but I’ll paraphrase the applicable info for anyone who still thinks it’s worth coming here:

Assuming a credit of 75 hrs per month, a 14 year F9 Captain makes 166,000. That’s the TOP paying position at F9.

A 1st year United FO makes 124,000 and by year 3 makes 173,000 when you include retirement and profit sharing. That’s right, a 3rd year narrowbody FO at United makes more than our topped-out captains. (So what was that argument about quick upgrades being worth it?)

Speaking of quick upgrades, at Delta, guys can hold JFK Airbus Capt at 3 yrs on property. At F9 your looking at 3.5 years minimum to hold PHL capt, which pays LESS than a 2nd(!) year FO at United (and probably Delta, American, Southwest, etc. etc.)

Oh, if you want DEN captain at F9 it takes over 5 years to hold. You want a line in DEN? TRY 17.5 YEARS.

Upgrades and retirement? Not at F9. Based on age 65, there are 66 retirements in the next 5 years and 218 in the next 10.

At the top 9 good airlines (Delta, AA, WN, FDX, UA, JetBlue, Alaska, UPS, and Hawaiian), there are a combined 12,900 retirements in the next 5 years and a whopping 27,900 in the next ten!

There is NO good reason to even CONSIDER Frontier right now. It will do NOTHING for your career but cost you money and waste your time.
And the worst part of that update was these guys (indigo and F9) are sitting on close to 1 billion cash. Our current ask is less than half that spread out over at least 4 years.
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