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GojetFires 05-21-2021 09:56 PM


Originally Posted by PorkyMcFuzz (Post 3238530)
Things must be gearing up to get really busy over there! I hear you guys are sponsoring overseas work Visa pilots again.

Skywest is hiring over 80 per month and will be 120 beginning in September. Republic is hiring, PSA is hiring, Endevor is hiring and even Horizon is starting.

Gojet began the trickle and Skywest opened the flood gates. People are not going to come here when the respectable airlines are hiring. I expect we will become known as the airline to go to transition to fixed wing. Maybe specializing in foreign pilots will help too. We will need a few nitches.

CBPflyer 05-22-2021 04:30 AM


Originally Posted by GojetFires (Post 3235848)
There is no such clause in the CBA. Can you point to an LOA that implemented such a clause?

According to the chief pilot, it was implemented in the last contract. I can't count how many times I have heard this from management etc during indoc. The only question is whether I can trust them...

StlLifer 05-22-2021 08:18 PM


Originally Posted by CBPflyer (Post 3238642)
According to the chief pilot, it was implemented in the last contract. I can't count how many times I have heard this from management etc during indoc. The only question is whether I can trust them...

I have not seen such a clause in the CBA, if someone could show us that it would be appreciated. Can you trust them, no. They will tell you something like that exists and point you to the source. You read the actual source and it says no such thing. They will tell you that is how it is interpreted, when it never will be.

If it does exist, does that mean it will be followed? The 2007 CBA required arbitration of grievances and Gojet routinely refused to arbitrate saying each grievance was not properly grieved. Then there would be an arbitration about whether GJ had to arbitrate. When they lost they still refused to arbitrate until they were sued. Then they claimed the suit was improper because arbitration was required. They will spend 3 years making that argument if they need to.

MaCrOs 05-23-2021 11:37 PM

I saw that you guys don't do airport standby which is great. How long are reserve blocks? 4 or 5 days?

x45polaris 05-24-2021 07:16 AM


Originally Posted by StlLifer (Post 3239018)
I have not seen such a clause in the CBA, if someone could show us that it would be appreciated. Can you trust them, no. They will tell you something like that exists and point you to the source. You read the actual source and it says no such thing. They will tell you that is how it is interpreted, when it never will be.

If it does exist, does that mean it will be followed? The 2007 CBA required arbitration of grievances and Gojet routinely refused to arbitrate saying each grievance was not properly grieved. Then there would be an arbitration about whether GJ had to arbitrate. When they lost they still refused to arbitrate until they were sued. Then they claimed the suit was improper because arbitration was required. They will spend 3 years making that argument if they need to.

Check out RLA section 6

hav3atps 05-24-2021 02:04 PM

Anyone commuting from the West Coast? Where from?

Vloggerwatcher 05-24-2021 02:42 PM


Originally Posted by hav3atps (Post 3239789)
Anyone commuting from the West Coast? Where from?

I do and I know a few do out of SAN and SFO and SEA.

hav3atps 05-24-2021 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Vloggerwatcher (Post 3239802)
I do and I know a few do out of SAN and SFO and SEA.

PM'd Thanks..

drofwarc58 05-24-2021 04:02 PM

CJO
 

Originally Posted by aggieflyboy (Post 3237167)
Picked up a CJO for a Sep 7 class date. Looking forwards to training


congrats on the CJO. They called me today. Though it’s a good deal for many, as a 20 year ExpressJet guy, I’m not sure if I’m willing to work for the pay outlined in their longevity match (up to 10 years) . For me it’s a $22+/hour cut. Anyways, questions.
1. When was your interview? May interview and September class date? That buys me time.
The interview is virtual correct?
You got a CJO right after the interview?

again, congratulations.

callan crawford

StlLifer 05-24-2021 08:40 PM


Originally Posted by x45polaris (Post 3239592)
Check out RLA section 6

You are mistaken if you believe that section 6 requires GoJet or any other airline to promptly enter into a new CBA when one expires. It has 3 provisions:
1. Either party must give the other party at least thirty days' written notice of an intended change in agreements affecting rates of pay, rules, or working conditions, and

2. The time and place for the beginning of conference between the representatives of the parties interested in such intended changes shall be agreed upon within ten days after the receipt of said notice, and said time shall be within the thirty days provided in the notice., and


3. Status quo on the old contract until a new agreement is reached or the parties are released by the mediator for self help.

Nobody can force an agreement upon the other and the negotiations often take several years. Gojet's 2007 agreement ended in 2014 and a new CBA was entered 4 years later. If Gojet can entice pilots to come with low salaries but big bonuses they won't be in a hurry to increase everyone's pay.


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