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Old 05-26-2008 | 07:03 PM
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And how lomg have you been flying ? Cause I remember when regional pilots gladly took flying from majors undercutting those pilots. I can get you intouch with them and maybe you will learn a thin or two about this industry. MD80 and 717 were replaced by regional jet or t-prop for a lower salary. But let me guess...it's not the same !

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Old 05-26-2008 | 07:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Navajo31
I'm a fractional guy whose only experience with GoJet was a ride home (on a coach ticket). Both the cockpit and cabin crews were very friendly towards me - upgrade to the front, "thanks for flying", and no request for a referral to my company. They all had a realistic view of their company, and hopes for a greater future.
Well to some on this forum they are Scum of the earth.....If only some people will Grow up or get a hobby of some sort.. I suggest Fly Fishing...
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Old 05-26-2008 | 08:47 PM
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It's amazing how this post grew to 24 pages and counting.....keep blaming the pilots...some of them had nothing to do blame the f'ing company for trying to screw their own people, some if not most of the guys that fly for GoJet are really good guys and in the end are gonna make it elsewhere....At this stage of the game and with the way the hsit is we gotta stick it out for each other...Now the Mesa guys theyre something else LOL
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Old 05-26-2008 | 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by afxarmed
It's amazing how this post grew to 24 pages and counting.....keep blaming the pilots...some of them had nothing to do blame the f'ing company for trying to screw their own people, some if not most of the guys that fly for GoJet are really good guys and in the end are gonna make it elsewhere....At this stage of the game and with the way the hsit is we gotta stick it out for each other...Now the Mesa guys theyre something else LOL

The scumbag pilots and the scumbag management share the blame. If the management hadn't created an alter-ego airline, it wouldn't have happened. If no one would work for them, it wouldn't have happened. I sure as hell won't let hulas on my damn jumpseat, the same goes for their scumbag pilots.
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Old 05-26-2008 | 10:02 PM
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I got hired on with TSA back when everyone was hiring. Reason being was their wages weren't super sub standard (actually paid higher first year than most regionals at $22.59, and with how fast upgrades were, 2nd year pay was actually captain pay) and the upgrade time was really short, and I just needed the time to do it. I had 580/70 when I was hired, and have never failed a check at TSA. I was gonna jump ship 3 times, but skywest wouldn't interview me because I had 1000 hours, even with a degree from ERAU and worked for a 121 carrier. If I went to ATP, they would have given me an interview at 800 hours though

I stayed at TSA, got the time to upgrade, and it took me exactly 18 mos, and i took some extra time to get more winter experience.

Now, I just got downgraded from Captain back to First Officer, while people hired at Go Jets after I was hired (read JUNIOR to me)have upgraded into the CRJ-700, while I watch the 145's phase out of existance.

So much for feeding myself and my family right? Go Jets have the right to do that, but screw the TSA pilots who fought for what was right, and the new hires who did SOME research into what airline they were going into, and avoided Go Jets.

Trans States Holdings should be the same way Chataqua works. Damn ANYONE for asking management for average wages though, because they're 100% right in creating a new airline and paying pilots less than what another pilot group was asking for who deserved that flying (and yes, TSA pilots DID deserve that flying because of our performance that United liked, which is WHY they asked us to fly 700's)
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Old 05-26-2008 | 10:22 PM
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Originally Posted by TBucket
The scumbag pilots and the scumbag management share the blame. If the management hadn't created an alter-ego airline, it wouldn't have happened. If no one would work for them, it wouldn't have happened. I sure as hell won't let hulas on my damn jumpseat, the same goes for their scumbag pilots.

Hmmmmmmmmm and Just who wins in a Jumpseat War ..let me tell you who NO ONE..you are not only hurting the gojets pilots but every pilot in your Company who jumpseat.. for work Ill say it again NO ONE WINS in a JUMPSEAT WAR...its as simple as that.
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Old 05-27-2008 | 05:08 AM
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Originally Posted by denvrpilot
Quoted from Wizzwheel "Sorry but all the airlines you mentioned were not created as an alter-ego. Freedom A was and those pilots that jumped over there and stabbed their fellow Mesa pilots in the back STILL have the stigma of being scum."





You either are a new hire fo drinking the cool aide or have your facts completely wrong. GoJet was created to fly seventy seat jets for a United contract...Freedom was created to bust a union. They were flying the very same aircraft as Mesa.

The horrible contract that TSA agreed upon does not allow the flying of seventy seat jets. You can ask ALPA national about this.

YOU continue to lower the bar by flying at nineteen an hour...let your feet do the talking instead of your mouth.

I did, you can too.
Guess again genius. Been here longer than $19 an hour would warrant.
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Old 05-27-2008 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Blkflyer
Hmmmmmmmmm and Just who wins in a Jumpseat War ..let me tell you who NO ONE..you are not only hurting the gojets pilots but every pilot in your Company who jumpseat.. for work Ill say it again NO ONE WINS in a JUMPSEAT WAR...its as simple as that.

I'd be hard pressed to find anyone at TSA who would actually want to ride on a Gojet jumpseat. So really, we're not hurting anyone. Hell, I know I'd spend a night sleeping on the floor in ORD before I'd ride a hojet flight home.
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Old 05-27-2008 | 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by denvrpilot
The horrible contract that TSA agreed upon does not allow the flying of seventy seat jets. You can ask ALPA national about this.
Its not our contract that doesn't allow us to fly 70 seat airplanes, it is the American pilots' contract.
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Old 05-27-2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by denvrpilot
It's your contract because you have to abide by it.
I'm not following. No where in our contract does it say we cannot fly 70 seat airplanes. The scope agreement between the APA and American specifies the fact that its regional carriers cannot operate the equipment. It really has nothing to do with our contract.
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